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    danzo vs sasuke ???

    as u all know sasuke beats danzo in the manga
    my question is did sasuke won because he was actualy stronger than danzo or because he has a more important role in the series
    From my point of view danzo should have won
    He could have used izanagi he had a dozen sharingans and the DNA of the First Hokage in him
    I just cant believe he lost
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by samoilaaa View Post
    as u all know sasuke beats danzo in the manga
    my question is did sasuke won because he was actualy stronger than danzo or because he has a more important role in the series
    From my point of view danzo should have won
    He could have used izanagi he had a dozen sharingans and the DNA of the First Hokage in him
    I just cant believe he lost
    maybe he should have won but........ " it's not that a ninja with limitless power always wins" though danzo had sharingans in his arm and has shodaime's DNA he understimated sasuke. and became the victim of genjutsu...........that the reason he loss the battle with sasuke.......
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by kyuubi no jinchuriki View Post
    maybe he should have won but........ " it's not that a ninja with limitless power always wins" though danzo had sharingans in his arm and has shodaime's DNA he understimated sasuke. and became the victim of genjutsu...........that the reason he loss the battle with sasuke.......
    well thats the thing danzo wasnt the type to underestimte an opponent no matter how weak he was
    the way he lost makes him look like a total fool
    he gathered so much power and planned so much but in the end he underestimates a kid and because of that he dies
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    He won only because of Madara advices and that Girl's healing. I would finish him off if it was 1 on 1 easily.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by samoilaaa View Post
    as u all know sasuke beats danzo in the manga
    my question is did sasuke won because he was actualy stronger than danzo or because he has a more important role in the series
    From my point of view danzo should have won
    He could have used izanagi he had a dozen sharingans and the DNA of the First Hokage in him
    I just cant believe he lost
    Just think about the "David vs Goliath" thing, you know.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzou View Post
    He won only because of Madara advices and that Girl's healing. I would finish him off if it was 1 on 1 easily.
    LMAO !!! Yeah you right Also He was given incredible power by Kishi without a damn reason!

    PS: It's a shame Danzo is not in Naruto Shippuden Ultimate ninja storm 2, I don't especially like the character but the fight VS Sasuke wasn't bad at all. (Yeah I know he s not in it cause the game ends after Pain's defeat with a Killer bee vs Sasuke bonus round. )
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    danzo is stronger than sasuke
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    danzo was a better ninja and stronger, he just fell to the super saiyan powers of sasuke (he gets stronger for no reason out of no were with out any training.lol).. but on a serious note, danzo could have won if it was 1 0n 1. tobi and karin help/saved him. danzo wasnt even that serious with sasuke and because of that he died. i would of liked to see shuisi's jutsus tho..
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by samoilaaa View Post
    as u all know sasuke beats danzo in the manga
    my question is did sasuke won because he was actualy stronger than danzo or because he has a more important role in the series
    From my point of view danzo should have won
    He could have used izanagi he had a dozen sharingans and the DNA of the First Hokage in him
    I just cant believe he lost
    I don't think it was a good battle for either Sasuke or Danzo. Both of them made stupid mistakes, but Danzo's stupid mistakes were worse and he died.

    Danzo: He wasted his first few sharingan, playing with Sasuke. He didn't even try to go on the offensive until his first 3 or 4 sharingan were already spent. If he hadn't been so care-free with his sharingan early in the battle, he may have had more later towards the end. At the beginning of the battle he charged right in, and was "killed" three times without really even starting a serious attack. When Danzo put his seal on Sasuke, he had an opportunity to kill him and wasted it by talking and being slow. Also, towards the end of the battle Danzo decided to conserve energy in case he had to battle Madara too. At the end of the battle, Sasuke's strategy was to continue attacking Danzo, to force him to waste chakra and waste his sharingans. Danzo fell right into this trap without trying to play it safe, or study his opponent, or preserve his resources.

    Sasuke: Let's start at the beginning. Sasuke starts the battle with Susanoo. He doesn't move, doesn't use Taijutsu, doesn't try to dodge, doesn't try to learn anything about his opponent. Boom! spam Susanoo. Then amaterasu. Then Tsukuyomi. And Susanoo again. Finish it off with a Tsukuyomi again. Sasuke was burning chakra and was only a few techniques away from going blind. If Danzo was just a little smarter and more reserved, he could easily have outlasted Sasuke.

    Both Danzo and Sasuke were wasting chakra and resources as quickly as possible, and neither of them were taking the itme to really study their opponent. In the end, Danzo let his resources run out faster. If Danzo had been smarter, he certainly could have won.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Sasuke needs help with everything, He used to be so independent in the first series showing everybody up but now he's just a puppy wrapped around Madara's finger and can't beat anyboy without help...I respect Danzo more because, although he was a militant extreamist he still wanted what was best for Konoha. I didn't like him but you can respect somebody and not like them. As for Sasuke I don't like or respect him.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteknight View Post
    I don't think it was a good battle for either Sasuke or Danzo. Both of them made stupid mistakes, but Danzo's stupid mistakes were worse and he died.

    Danzo: He wasted his first few sharingan, playing with Sasuke. He didn't even try to go on the offensive until his first 3 or 4 sharingan were already spent. If he hadn't been so care-free with his sharingan early in the battle, he may have had more later towards the end. At the beginning of the battle he charged right in, and was "killed" three times without really even starting a serious attack. When Danzo put his seal on Sasuke, he had an opportunity to kill him and wasted it by talking and being slow. Also, towards the end of the battle Danzo decided to conserve energy in case he had to battle Madara too. At the end of the battle, Sasuke's strategy was to continue attacking Danzo, to force him to waste chakra and waste his sharingans. Danzo fell right into this trap without trying to play it safe, or study his opponent, or preserve his resources.

    Sasuke: Let's start at the beginning. Sasuke starts the battle with Susanoo. He doesn't move, doesn't use Taijutsu, doesn't try to dodge, doesn't try to learn anything about his opponent. Boom! spam Susanoo. Then amaterasu. Then Tsukuyomi. And Susanoo again. Finish it off with a Tsukuyomi again. Sasuke was burning chakra and was only a few techniques away from going blind. If Danzo was just a little smarter and more reserved, he could easily have outlasted Sasuke.

    Both Danzo and Sasuke were wasting chakra and resources as quickly as possible, and neither of them were taking the itme to really study their opponent. In the end, Danzo let his resources run out faster. If Danzo had been smarter, he certainly could have won.
    Yeah Danzo definately wasted some sharingans to try and talk some sense into Emo Sasuke....
    But don't forget Sasuke was probably not 100% either cause he had just fought in the Kage summit...
    Don't get me wrong I was all for a Danzo win... I hate Sasuke but you can't beat Kishi ............
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    i see this is a sauske bash fest (not saying im a fan but its on sided) naruto got help from many ppl durning the pain fight...if he didnt he would be dead. same as mandra helping ******. also never will a non sharingon user (with the eye) beat a true uchia. sorry for the spellings
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthlessbeatle View Post
    i see this is a sauske bash fest (not saying im a fan but its on sided) naruto got help from many ppl durning the pain fight...if he didnt he would be dead. same as mandra helping ******. also never will a non sharingon user (with the eye) beat a true uchia. sorry for the spellings
    Well said I agree and I do like sasuke...also danzo had his team but day got done in by madara so if day didn't fight madara day would have fought with danzo against sasuke so kill da sasuke had help noise every ninja (great ninja) had help in most fight....(i.e sasuke danzo, naruto, kakashi, killer bee and his bro, gaara, ect...) so just stop
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthlessbeatle View Post
    i see this is a sauske bash fest (not saying im a fan but its on sided) naruto got help from many ppl durning the pain fight...if he didnt he would be dead. same as mandra helping ******. also never will a non sharingon user (with the eye) beat a true uchia. sorry for the spellings
    Absolutely! Naruto is pretty far out in my top list of favorite characters anyway :D
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthlessbeatle View Post
    i see this is a sauske bash fest (not saying im a fan but its on sided) naruto got help from many ppl durning the pain fight...if he didnt he would be dead. same as mandra helping ******. also never will a non sharingon user (with the eye) beat a true uchia. sorry for the spellings
    Danzo beat Sasuke's Tsukiyomi which is said to be only broken by a Uchiha. It was actually a tie as they were both stabbed by each other. Karin healed Sasuke, Madara saved him from the sealing jutsu. We all knew Sasuke wasn't going to die and that Danzo was not needed anymore. I give Sasuke credit for going one on one with a Konoha elder.

    Naruto did beat 6 bodies of Pain only because of the intel on each of them and Hinata's intervention. Pain isn't weak, he fought Jiraiya, killed him and then headed straight for Konoha. Would Naruto stand a chance without the information on each body? No.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Inception View Post
    Danzo beat Sasuke's Tsukiyomi which is said to be only broken by a Uchiha. It was actually a tie as they were both stabbed by each other. Karin healed Sasuke, Madara saved him from the sealing jutsu. We all knew Sasuke wasn't going to die and that Danzo was not needed anymore. I give Sasuke credit for going one on one with a Konoha elder.
    Only an Uchiha, or a Jinchurikii cause he has his beast inside him to help disturb the chakra as well as the genjutsu.
    By the way, this is a far shot, but do you think Danzo could use shodaime's chakra to evade tsukoyomi? Cause really sasuke's lack of genjutsu skills is a real stain on the Uchiha records!
     
         
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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    [QUOTE=Stampy;2699293][QUOTE=Inception;2698528]Danzo beat Sasuke's Tsukiyomi which is said to be only broken by a Uchiha. It was actually a tie as they were both stabbed by each other. Karin healed Sasuke, Madara saved him from the sealing jutsu. We all knew Sasuke wasn't going to die and that Danzo was not needed anymore. I give Sasuke credit for going one on one with a Konoha elder.

    Only an Uchiha, or a Jinchurikii cause he has his beast inside him to help disturb the chakra as well as the genjutsu.
    By the way, this is a far shot, but do you think Danzo could use shodaime's chakra to evade tsukoyomi? Cause really sasuke's lack of genjutsu skills is a real stain on the Uchiha records!
    not really, danzo didnt use the 1st powers till wen the arrow soonano'o was about to kill him because he turned off the izanagi.. soooooo... this just prove the tsukiomi isnt unstopable (atleast sasukes isnt)
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Judging from the way the battle went and the conditions it followed it would be logical to assume Danzo was the stronger person, but the conditions favored Sasuke. At the beginning of the battle Danzo was incapable of using Shisui's eye due to using the mind control ability at the Kage summit. This is a HUGE disadvantage. Its never been hinted that Danzo could use the eyes in his arm for sight, so not being able to use Shisui's eye takes away all the advantages the sharingan brings to the table. Not to mention it was shown that Danzo was quite skilled with the sharingan.

    Then you have to account for the fact that it wasn't Sasuke, but Karin who discovered the secret of Izanagi. This was important to Sasuke winning as it let him devise a plan on how to defeat Danzo.

    Last but not least at the end of the fight Sasuke was practically out of chakra. Had he not taken a bite out of Karin and regained his strength, theres a good chance that Danzo could have still won after being stabbed and losing the shodaime enhanced arm due to regaining the use of Shisui's eye.

    Even Madara says "Even though he couldn't use Shisui's eyes. . .you did good in defeating Danzo. . .Sasuke" hinting at the fact that the lack of Shisui's eye was a big problem for Danzo.

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/480/9


    So given all of that, I think its pretty clear that if Danzo and Sasuke had met at random by themselves and fought, Danzo would have won the battle.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Danzo View Post
    Judging from the way the battle went and the conditions it followed it would be logical to assume Danzo was the stronger person, but the conditions favored Sasuke. At the beginning of the battle Danzo was incapable of using Shisui's eye due to using the mind control ability at the Kage summit. This is a HUGE disadvantage. Its never been hinted that Danzo could use the eyes in his arm for sight, so not being able to use Shisui's eye takes away all the advantages the sharingan brings to the table. Not to mention it was shown that Danzo was quite skilled with the sharingan.

    Then you have to account for the fact that it wasn't Sasuke, but Karin who discovered the secret of Izanagi. This was important to Sasuke winning as it let him devise a plan on how to defeat Danzo.

    Last but not least at the end of the fight Sasuke was practically out of chakra. Had he not taken a bite out of Karin and regained his strength, theres a good chance that Danzo could have still won after being stabbed and losing the shodaime enhanced arm due to regaining the use of Shisui's eye.

    Even Madara says "Even though he couldn't use Shisui's eyes. . .you did good in defeating Danzo. . .Sasuke" hinting at the fact that the lack of Shisui's eye was a big problem for Danzo.

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/480/9


    So given all of that, I think its pretty clear that if Danzo and Sasuke had met at random by themselves and fought, Danzo would have won the battle.
    Agreed, and at the bottom of that page you linked, it also shows how he couldn't control Hashimara's power thus letting go of it. So it is like an entity (that was taking over Danzo) within Danzo, and I don't think he used the chakra until Susano'o arrow, but by disturbing it during tsukoyomi (No visual proof just like when Killer bee got out of Tsukoyomi) he could have gone out of it just like Killer bee did. This is a far shot obviously but hopefully people see where I m getting at with this.
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Danzo was wasting time on purpose, waiting for Shisui's eye to recover. He was also pretty much completely screwed in that fight cuz he was outnumbered and had to be extra careful because he would of had to deal with Madara after he killed Sasuke and didn't wanna have no energy left.

    His ultimate downfall was his plan backfired when Sasuke caught him completely by surprise with an unexpected attack through Karin. :<

    Just like with Killer Bee, if Sasuke was alone he would of died against him, and would of died to Danzo as well. Even Itachi was stronger than him. Sasuke's allys are what make him strong, and he doesn't even realize that and runs around thinking he's invincible. :s
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    danzo was always weak those sharngans he had on his arm was worthless
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

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    danzo was always weak those sharngans he had on his arm was worthless
    please tell me your joking and you just wanted some attention from that comment.:flaw:
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    no he was always weak in my oppining he got defeated to easily
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    Quote Originally Posted by PositiveEmotions View Post
    danzo was always weak those sharngans he had on his arm was worthless
    You're right, being able to not die 14 times (or something like that) is pretty worthless.....
     
         

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    Re: danzo vs sasuke ???

    is that a threat? lol im jst saying dudes danzo got all those sharingan eyes and yet he got defeated easily but than again its because of madara's help
     
         

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