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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryusuke View Post
    Kisame is really evil man and he is different from Nagato, Konan and Itachi ...
    Kisame isn't evil, he was manipulated like every other Akatsuki member. Itachi, Kisame, Konan were the least evil, Itachi sacrificed his entire life in order to preserve peace within Konoha. Kisame's life was a lie, all he wanted was to live in a world of truth. he was manipulated and lied to like Nagato. Konana simply followed her friends, she had no intentions of killing anyone. The true evil dude is Madara.

    Like think of it this way

    Madara - Wants to control everyone against their will
    Zetsu - ????????????????????????????????????????
    Kakuzu - Steals youth and is greedy.
    Hidan - Kills to become immortal
    Diedara - Terrorist for hire
    Nagato - Become the god of Naruto universe
    Konan - Followed her friends.
    Itachi - Killed his clan to prevent and uprising against Konoha and the disturbance of peace
    Kisame - Killed comrades so that information was kept hidden, wanted to live in a world of truth.
    Sasori - Kills to gain puppets and remain young.

    Finding the truth, following your friends, preserving peace are less evil than Ruling the world, becoming a god, trying to become immortal, and destroying things so that his visions are recognized.
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Quote Originally Posted by kisamexRocks View Post
    Kisame isn't evil, he was manipulated like every other Akatsuki member. Itachi, Kisame, Konan were the least evil, Itachi sacrificed his entire life in order to preserve peace within Konoha. Kisame's life was a lie, all he wanted was to live in a world of truth. he was manipulated and lied to like Nagato. Konana simply followed her friends, she had no intentions of killing anyone. The true evil dude is Madara.

    Like think of it this way

    Madara - Wants to control everyone against their will
    Zetsu - ????????????????????????????????????????
    Kakuzu - Steals youth and is greedy.
    Hidan - Kills to become immortal
    Diedara - Terrorist for hire
    Nagato - Become the god of Naruto universe
    Konan - Followed her friends.
    Itachi - Killed his clan to prevent and uprising against Konoha and the disturbance of peace
    Kisame - Killed comrades so that information was kept hidden, wanted to live in a world of truth.
    Sasori - Kills to gain puppets and remain young.

    Finding the truth, following your friends, preserving peace are less evil than Ruling the world, becoming a god, trying to become immortal, and destroying things so that his visions are recognized.
    one small correction, I agrea with everything you posted except the part about nagato, he was not evil, just misguided and used by madara for that.
    yes he wanted to become a god of the world, but only so that he could try to give it moments of peace, his intentions were good, but his actions were tainted by madara's manipulations.

    nagato also just wanted to be there for his friends at first, until yahiko commited suicide on the kunai that nagato was holding only to save konan, and then he lost it when hanzo wanted to kill him and konan to.
    but would you not lose it for a moment if your best friend just commited suicide in front of your eye's and right after that someone is trying to kill your other friend? after that he was used by madara.
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    I don't think Kisame was evil but at the same time I mean ninja's are pretty brutal and Kisame liked to fight. I would say what he was looking for in life but was manipulated by madara to make it seem like he found his place which without that meeting in the last manga I don't think he would have been the same type of person just imho.
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    one small correction, I agrea with everything you posted except the part about nagato, he was not evil, just misguided and used by madara for that.
    yes he wanted to become a god of the world, but only so that he could try to give it moments of peace, his intentions were good, but his actions were tainted by madara's manipulations.

    nagato also just wanted to be there for his friends at first, until yahiko commited suicide on the kunai that nagato was holding only to save konan, and then he lost it when hanzo wanted to kill him and konan to.
    but would you not lose it for a moment if your best friend just commited suicide in front of your eye's and right after that someone is trying to kill your other friend? after that he was used by madara.
    But then to go all out, murder every single known relative, friend, no matter who associated with Hanzo? Killing innocent children just for revenge? and those that did nothing wrong. I understand that Nagato wanted to avenge his friends and family but there are limits, kill the man that gave you that Pain but leave those that had nothing to do with it alone. Then make dead bodies come alive to do your bidding? then create a Jutsu that eliminates possibly 10+ million people in an instant. It wont bring peace but more war. I understand Madara did all this but Nagato must have realized what he was doing. But oh well, he did do his last respect and brought back everyone he killed in Konoha.
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Quote Originally Posted by kisamexRocks View Post
    Kisame isn't evil, he was manipulated like every other Akatsuki member. Itachi, Kisame, Konan were the least evil, Itachi sacrificed his entire life in order to preserve peace within Konoha. Kisame's life was a lie, all he wanted was to live in a world of truth. he was manipulated and lied to like Nagato. Konana simply followed her friends, she had no intentions of killing anyone. The true evil dude is Madara.

    Like think of it this way

    Madara - Wants to control everyone against their will
    Zetsu - ????????????????????????????????????????
    Kakuzu - Steals youth and is greedy.
    Hidan - Kills to become immortal
    Diedara - Terrorist for hire
    Nagato - Become the god of Naruto universe
    Konan - Followed her friends.
    Itachi - Killed his clan to prevent and uprising against Konoha and the disturbance of peace
    Kisame - Killed comrades so that information was kept hidden, wanted to live in a world of truth.
    Sasori - Kills to gain puppets and remain young.

    Finding the truth, following your friends, preserving peace are less evil than Ruling the world, becoming a god, trying to become immortal, and destroying things so that his visions are recognized.
    Well, its just point of view. Don't forget that everyone, even the manga characters thought Kisame was the most evil and that he only kills because he takes pleasure.
    You can say;

    Nagato: His ambition was not to become god. All he wanted was to bring peace to the world. Probably the most benevolent guy among whole Akatsuki. Itachi wanted peace for Konoha where Nagato sincerely wanted peace for the whole world!

    Sasori: His story is really parallel with Gaara's story. No parental love and stuff. Gaara would be Sasori version 2.0 if he hadn't met Naruto. We can say Sasori's bad luck was that he didn't meet naruto when he was young lol.

    Kakuzu: Kakuzu's story is also similar to Kisame's. He was sent to an assasination mission and failed. His village severely punished him for that. So he became this way. As you can see, he was just loyal to his village until his village treated him like a garbage for nothing.

    Hidan: Uh, from his point of view, he is following his religion. His god demands blood. He even tortures himself for that. Really, its the same nonsense stuff in all religions, only more vulgar : )

    Deidara: Hm tough one. Don't know much details about him except that he had deep desire to learn & improve his clay ninjutsu. In a way, he is like Orochimaru, he desires knowledge.
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Kisame really is the biggest bad ass ever now.
    Bit off his own tongue, I bet he'll probably die from that, but just before that he either sends Madara the intel Gai stole, or destroys it.
    And with a tad bit of luck reclaim Samehada, regenerate and kick all of their arses.
    If Kisame had Samehada Gai would'nt even have touched him.
    And even without it he still needed to open 7 gates, Kisame really is awesome, and in my eyes superior to pein and itachi.
    I hope he survives, definatly my favorite character now.
    Well...he already was for wanting to chop Narutards legs off lol.
     
         
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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Quote Originally Posted by Narutofan123457 View Post
    No, Kisame wanted to live in a world without lies, and Naruto, Yamato, Guy, and the others are trying to take that away from him. All he ever wanted was to live in Madara's world under the moon's eye plan, and Naruto wants to stop Madara. It's kinda like Kimimaru. Remember that Orochimaru finally gave him a reason to be alive, a place where he belonged, and Kimimaru's only wish was to protect the one that gave him this. He wasn't a bad person, he was just found by someone who wanted to use him. Kisame realized that Madara wanted to use him as a tool, but he needed someone to trust. he needed someone who would need him back. To him, the moon's eye plan was going to create his perfect world of truth, and no matter what, he is going to protect that.
    well said.
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Quote Originally Posted by BuShMaN View Post
    Can Naruto convert Kisame to be on his side, now that he knows his story? Can Kisame be good? Is it duable?
    no he would never give any info even if naruto convineced him to be on his side most likely hell kill himself so they cant prone his mind and i think he feels something towards madara and pein for giving him a place he fit in
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    Kisame is an awesome char cuz his an evil BADASS
     
         

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    Re: Can Kisame be a GOOD guy???

    I dont think he will. He'll either die on the island or he'll escape and go back with madara and zetsu.
     
         

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