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Old 08-24-2010, 01:48 PM   #1
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Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

So as everyone knows, the SO6P created the shinobi world. He gave birth to 2 sons. The elder was his 'eyes' and the younger was his 'body'. As we have now seen, although at first everyone thought Naruto was the eyes because of sage mode, Naruto is most definitely the body. Most people think that Sasuke is now going to resemble the eyes. It was seen by Tobi and the elder toad that Naruto would fight someone with 'very powerful eyes' and both Naruto and all of us, believe that to be Sasuke. But what if it isn't Sasuke? Remember the elder son had his 'eyes', which would be the Rinnegan. And as we have now seen, Madara is transplanting the Rinnegan into himself. I'm just guessing that his eyes are now much more powerful than Sasuke's. So what if Naruto and Madara are destined to fight? Then what happens to Sasuke? If this is the truth and Madara really is the 'powerful eyes' the elder toad spoke of, then there are only 3 options...

1. Sasuke dies quickly to Naruto.
2. Sasuke is converted to the good side
3. Sasuke realizes what he has done and kills himself

We haven't really considered 3 as an option, but I think if Itachi's gift shows Sasuke the light, Sasuke might be so ashamed that he commits suicide. I think it would be a dramatic twist in the storyline right? It's just a theory, but please comment!

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Old 08-24-2010, 02:07 PM   #2
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Good theory but if madara transplants rinnegan into his eyes then he might hav to cover his eyes or it will drain out his chakra...just like in the case of kakashi, danzo n other shinobies who transplanted their eyes with sharingan n byakugan.....
But v r talking abt madara he might hav come up with some trick to ovrcome this disadvantage....
The other aim for his transplanting might be that the juubi can be controlled only by the possessor of rinnegan jsut lke SO6P...If it goes this way then he will be the final enemy (the possessor of powerful eyes) who Naruto will be fighting......And for itachi's gift im sure it has something to do with sasuke.....

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Old 08-24-2010, 03:30 PM   #3
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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

The elder said, "you will fight a young man who has powerful eyes.." Madara aint young, he's old dude

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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

Ye... we thought Naruto had the eyes because of Sage Mode? Nah not rly.

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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

I don't think the older son had the Rinnegan but I think he had his father's eye techniques and his ocular power. Madara is old and the Great Sage said Naruto will face a young man with great power in his eyes, so Sasuke is getting his EMS, which will grant him great power, but if he is defeated and there's a scene of the Great Sage that says "Hmmm, this is not the man I forsaw" Then we are left with Kabuto. He is young and he has some pretty great power, let alone Orochimaru's eyes. So we never know. Other than that it might 90% be Sasuke and 10% Kabuto.

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Ya but madara still is a mystery man..........He is old but even we look at his physique he looks young.........i even doubt at him being madara
When itachi left hidden leaf...he said that he met Madara Uchiha in his real form....then y he hav to hide behind a mask n named tobi but tobi can turn out to be Obito bcoz his left side is hidden n obito left eye was transplanted to kakashi thus he is forced to use only one eye(right side).....

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Ya but madara still is a mystery man..........He is old but even we look at his physique he looks young.........i even doubt at him being madara
When itachi left hidden leaf...he said that he met Madara Uchiha in his real form....then y he hav to hide behind a mask n named tobi but tobi can turn out to be Obito bcoz his left side is hidden n obito left eye was transplanted to kakashi thus he is forced to use only one eye(right side).....
Obito being Tobi is completely wrong. There have been m any threads and non have conclusive evidence. Plus, Obito would show his Left side not his Right side. Obito has no knowledge of Itachi or the Fox attack on Konoha 16 years ago, nor does he know the history of Madara or SO6P. Obito's right side was completely crushed by the gigantic boulder or rocks that fell on him. If he survived he wouldn't join Akatsuki or try to start wars. He would go back to Konoha and tell Kakashi he is alive and continue his training with Rin, Kakashi and Minato.

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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

uh... it CLEARLY says.... the descentants of the elder son who inherited the sage's eyes are called UCHIHA.... so did we think naruto was the 'eye'? no.

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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

Firstly, i don't think people said that naruto is the 'eye' because of sage mode, if it is the 'eye' because of sage mode then what about jiraiya? jiraiya also have sage mode..

i guess i believe he is the body as we seen now, when he use the fox chakra he got that form like s6op...

for what the elder toad said. as kisamexrock said, he will fight a young man with have great power in his eye. madara is not young plus he haven even show EMS how can we prove his strong ? so this will lead us to sasuke, he got his EMS which he is now stronger and he definitely young

Naruto and Sasuke are destined to fight like
1st hokage and Madara. and the scene mostly probably will take place
at the same place. The Valley Of The End.

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Old 08-24-2010, 07:52 PM   #10
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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

when an where did it say the two were sons of the sage
always thought they were jus brothers that trained with the sage

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Re: Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, and the SO6P

I forget the exact manga number the SO6P was introduced, but here is an excerpt from Narutopedia. Hope it helps. If anyone can find the actual manga number, please let me know!

The Sage's ultimate wish to establish peace throughout the world was a goal that could never be achieved within his lifetime alone. Knowing that his end was approaching, the Sage entrusted his strength, dream, and legacy to his two sons. The older son, who inherited the Sage's "eyes": the power of his chakra and his spiritual energy, believed that power was the true key to peace. The younger son, who inherited the Sage's "body"; his willpower and physical energy, believed that love was the true key to peace.

Oh, never mind, I found it!

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/462/11
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/462/12

Hope this helps!

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So as everyone knows, the SO6P created the shinobi world. He gave birth to 2 sons. The elder was his 'eyes' and the younger was his 'body'. As we have now seen, although at first everyone thought Naruto was the eyes because of sage mode, Naruto is most definitely the body. Most people think that Sasuke is now going to resemble the eyes. It was seen by Tobi and the elder toad that Naruto would fight someone with 'very powerful eyes' and both Naruto and all of us, believe that to be Sasuke. But what if it isn't Sasuke? Remember the elder son had his 'eyes', which would be the Rinnegan. And as we have now seen, Madara is transplanting the Rinnegan into himself. I'm just guessing that his eyes are now much more powerful than Sasuke's. So what if Naruto and Madara are destined to fight? Then what happens to Sasuke? If this is the truth and Madara really is the 'powerful eyes' the elder toad spoke of, then there are only 3 options...

1. Sasuke dies quickly to Naruto.
2. Sasuke is converted to the good side
3. Sasuke realizes what he has done and kills himself

We haven't really considered 3 as an option, but I think if Itachi's gift shows Sasuke the light, Sasuke might be so ashamed that he commits suicide. I think it would be a dramatic twist in the storyline right? It's just a theory, but please comment!

Firstly it is very funny how you said the SO6P gave birth to two son..... I laughed ah while.

However more seriously , the toad Oricle said that naruto would battle ah young man with great power in his eyes not just anyone which would obviously indicate sasuke. But after som observation I realized the toad Oricle is hundreds if not thousands of years old, so everyone is young to him, so it could be madara.
Here is what I think could happen:

Madara gives susuke renningan instead to use him as a pawn, sasuke dosen't know he has been tricked, because he never saw a EMS or the renningan.

Madara takes Itachi's Eyes and uses them to restore his own EMS.

Then Naruto will have to fight sasuke who he will then realise is uing the renningan. He will inform sasuke of this and about pien. Sasuke will realize he is being used. But sasuke will be weak after naruto kicked his ass so naruto will have to go fight madara. However kabuto will seek to capitalize on a weak sasuke (don't know how that will turn out). While fighting madara Itachi's gift will activate obviously, maybe itachi gave naruto his spiritual power which will enable him to unlock the eye's of his for father (The SO6P).
Not just the renningan but the original one we saw the renningan with the 9 tomes. Maybe Nagato never unlocked this level of the renningan because he himself stated that he was nowhere on the level with the sage. Naruto will combine his ocular powers with his physical strength and become the perfect ninja.

HENCE DEFEATING MADARA AND BRING ABOUT PEACE.

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Firstly it is very funny how you said the SO6P gave birth to two son..... I laughed ah while.

However more seriously , the toad Oricle said that naruto would battle ah young man with great power in his eyes not just anyone which would obviously indicate sasuke. But after som observation I realized the toad Oricle is hundreds if not thousands of years old, so everyone is young to him, so it could be madara.
Here is what I think could happen:

Madara gives susuke renningan instead to use him as a pawn, sasuke dosen't know he has been tricked, because he never saw a EMS or the renningan.

Madara takes Itachi's Eyes and uses them to restore his own EMS.

Then Naruto will have to fight sasuke who he will then realise is uing the renningan. He will inform sasuke of this and about pien. Sasuke will realize he is being used. But sasuke will be weak after naruto kicked his ass so naruto will have to go fight madara. However kabuto will seek to capitalize on a weak sasuke (don't know how that will turn out). While fighting madara Itachi's gift will activate obviously, maybe itachi gave naruto his spiritual power which will enable him to unlock the eye's of his for father (The SO6P).
Not just the renningan but the original one we saw the renningan with the 9 tomes. Maybe Nagato never unlocked this level of the renningan because he himself stated that he was nowhere on the level with the sage. Naruto will combine his ocular powers with his physical strength and become the perfect ninja.

HENCE DEFEATING MADARA AND BRING ABOUT PEACE.
I like this theory, but I don't think Madara would plant the rinnegan in Sasuke since there is so much hype about EMS and we haven't seen it yet. I also don't think Itachi's sharingan would wor on Madara, are they even related?

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I like this theory, but I don't think Madara would plant the rinnegan in Sasuke since there is so much hype about EMS and we haven't seen it yet. I also don't think Itachi's sharingan would wor on Madara, are they even related?
EMS isn't limited to uchiha brothers !!! you can check it out here in this thread I made.

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...-brothers.html

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I forget the exact manga number the SO6P was introduced, but here is an excerpt from Narutopedia. Hope it helps. If anyone can find the actual manga number, please let me know!

The Sage's ultimate wish to establish peace throughout the world was a goal that could never be achieved within his lifetime alone. Knowing that his end was approaching, the Sage entrusted his strength, dream, and legacy to his two sons. The older son, who inherited the Sage's "eyes": the power of his chakra and his spiritual energy, believed that power was the true key to peace. The younger son, who inherited the Sage's "body"; his willpower and physical energy, believed that love was the true key to peace.

Oh, never mind, I found it!

NarutoBase.net - NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 462 - Page 11
NarutoBase.net - NarutoBase.net - Naruto Manga Chapter 462 - Page 12

Hope this helps!
yes it also says the descendants of the older son is called uchiha and the younger son's is senju.

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