Naruto - Wasted Potential?

[JiraiyaSensei]

As strong as Naruto may have become... doesn't it feel like he wasn't that great of a shinobi? Seriously, doesn't it feel like he could be so much more by now?

What I mean is that with him I am missing any ordinary Ninjutsu. Basically all Naruto knows are variations of Rasengan and Kagebunshin. What else does he know? Kuchiose no jutsu, which still isn't really a ninjutsu. He can't do one ninjutsu that requires hand seals. He doesn't know a single wind-element jutsu (Rasenshuriken doesn't really count and it would still be just one).

And Senjutsu "just" increases his speed, stamina, taijutsu etc...

With his enormous learning potential due to his Kagebunshin, why doesn't he just master a dozen wind-element B-A rank ninjutsu? He could do it really quickly. Plus after that, using his Kagebunshin and some tutelage, I am certain, that Naruto would be able to master more elements (plural!).

And don't forget what potential he now holds, due to the incredible chakra he got from the Kyuubi.

I hope that now that he has this chakra, he will concentrate on mastering powerful A-Rank Ninjutsu which he then can let off numerous times, where shinobi with regular chakra could only do 2 per match or day

Anyone else thinks the same?

[Uchiha Riyo]

He should be way stronger by now but he's basically reached his limit in Taijutsu and needs lot of working on with Ninjutsu.A Genjutsu or two would help and some Kenjutsu would be great.So in fact,all he learned with Jiraiya was some improvements with his Rasengan stuff and Kichiyose.He needs more Jutsus.

[1V4N]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Riyo ,all he learned with Jiraiya was some improvements with his Rasengan stuff and Kichiyose.He needs more Jutsus.

you think that in 3 years thats all he has learned??
naruto was screwing around while he was in academy he lacked basic chakra control and ninja tactics that is what jiraya was teaching him plus things u said

[The Pervy Sage]

Its not what you know its how you use it, if you read the latest chapters of naruto vs the kyuubi you will understand his skill and power, where as oro had thousands of jutsu and ended up pwned by sasuke.... Understand a little more now?

[cruehead]

ur forgetting the jutsu that jiraiya taught naruto which he needs fox chakra so that must be an epic jutsu if he needs fox chakra for

[1V4N]

Don't fear the man that practiced 10.000 blows, fear the man that practiced one blow 10.000 times.

[JiraiyaSensei]

Originally Posted by 1V4N Don't fear the man that practiced 10.000 blows, fear the man that practiced one blow 10.000 times.

i like your point

Yet, Naruto has the unique ability to train 10.000 blows 10.000 times, due to his Kagebunshin ... If he traines one week from now on with say 500 Kagebunshin. That's 500 weeks or 9.5 years worth of training. He'd be unstopable.

(Did you notice that this shortcut is pretty similar to this white room in Dragonball...and the pathway between the dimensions in Bleach ^^)

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by JiraiyaSensei As strong as Naruto may have become... doesn't it feel like he wasn't that great of a shinobi? Seriously, doesn't it feel like he could be so much more by now? What I mean is that with him I am missing any ordinary Ninjutsu. Basically all Naruto knows are variations of Rasengan and Kagebunshin. What else does he know? Kuchiose no jutsu, which still isn't really a ninjutsu. He can't do one ninjutsu that requires hand seals. He doesn't know a single wind-element jutsu (Rasenshuriken doesn't really count and it would still be just one). And Senjutsu "just" increases his speed, stamina, taijutsu etc... With his enormous learning potential due to his Kagebunshin, why doesn't he just master a dozen wind-element B-A rank ninjutsu? He could do it really quickly. Plus after that, using his Kagebunshin and some tutelage, I am certain, that Naruto would be able to master more elements (plural!). And don't forget what potential he now holds, due to the incredible chakra he got from the Kyuubi. I hope that now that he has this chakra, he will concentrate on mastering powerful A-Rank Ninjutsu which he then can let off numerous times, where shinobi with regular chakra could only do 2 per match or day Anyone else thinks the same?

Hi, thanks for discussing this topic, well the way I look at it is, it�s more to do with lack of time and availability of a supervisor up until now, the only time he has concentrated on training was when he was with Jiraiya, since the moment he got back from this training either he has been occupied or there has been no one to supervise his training i.e. The nimju shotai which was mobilised to combat Akatsuki, hunting for Uchiha Itachi,

Then he trains in Maybokusan in sejutsu, that to in a rush to battle pain to avenge Jiraiya, protect Konoha, then he�s seen moping around about Tsunade, goes to plea with Raikage, battles Saskue saves Kakashi and Sakuras sorry ass, shipped off to a deserted island to protect him from Akatsuki where he trains under Kirabee to control his bijju and now he�s in a history lesson with his mother.

Don�t forget without the fox been tamed, it was always a risk using the Kagebunshin method to train, he needs Yamato to always be with him if shit hits the fan, and personally I don�t think Yamato could teach Naruto, he doesn�t have the faith and the confidence Jiraiya and Kakashi has on Naruto

[JiraiyaSensei]

Originally Posted by Kushan Don�t forget without the fox been tamed, it was always a risk using the Kagebunshin method to train, he needs Yamato to always be with him if shit hits the fan, and personally I don�t think Yamato could teach Naruto, he doesn�t have the faith and the confidence Jiraiya and Kakashi has on Naruto

Ok, that's true

Maybe now he doesn't need anyone to supress the Kyuubi anymore and can just train as much he wants using Kagebunshin...If he has the time

[Honord Sage]

Naruto is only 16 years old how can anybody say He has reach His peak? A normal Human reaches the peak of His powers at 30 years of age. And Uzumaki's have a longer life spanned than your average Human. Naruto still has a long way to go.

[JiraiyaSensei]

Originally Posted by Honord Sage Naruto is only 16 years old how can anybody say He has reach His peak? A normal Human reaches the peak of His powers at 30 years of age. And Uzumaki's have a longer life spanned than your average Human. Naruto still has a long way to go.

I won't doubt that... I just meant, that he could already be way stronger. Imagine what skill he would have when he is Jiraiya's age He'd take on Rikodou Sennin

[Symbiote]

Naruto lacks time, due to his constant chase for, not his own, but Sasuke's happiness. And thusforth lacks a tutor too.

He hasn't reached his peak, if he doesn't die along with Sasuke then Naruto would be more than a dozen times stronger than currently when he grows.

[Psychonault]

Originally Posted by Kushan Hi, thanks for discussing this topic, well the way I look at it is, it�s more to do with lack of time and availability of a supervisor up until now, the only time he has concentrated on training was when he was with Jiraiya, since the moment he got back from this training either he has been occupied or there has been no one to supervise his training i.e. The nimju shotai which was mobilised to combat Akatsuki, hunting for Uchiha Itachi, Naruto

Hmm, somehow this part is kinda confusing, especially the end . I can only guess its meaning ...

Originally Posted by Honord Sage Naruto is only 16 years old how can anybody say He has reach His peak? A normal Human reaches the peak of His powers at 30 years of age. And Uzumaki's have a longer life spanned than your average Human. Naruto still has a long way to go.

Sure Naruto hasnt reached its peak of powers, but I don't really think a human reaches its top of power at the age of 30, or do u think Jiraiya was stronger when he was 30 then when he was fighting Pain ??? Maybe u just phrased it a little bit wrong. I suppose human has the best conditions to learn till the age of 30, and from that point on its harder for them to learn, to say it in a short way. (sure strength suffers from old age, but not with 30 imo)

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by Psychonault Hmm, somehow this part is kinda confusing, especially the end . I can only guess its meaning ... Sure Naruto hasnt reached its peak of powers, but I don't really think a human reaches its top of power at the age of 30, or do u think Jiraiya was stronger when he was 30 then when he was fighting Pain ??? Maybe u just phrased it a little bit wrong. I suppose human has the best conditions to learn till the age of 30, and from that point on its harder for them to learn, to say it in a short way. (sure strength suffers from old age, but not with 30 imo)

Sorry I confused you; what exactly is the confusion part, I might be able to clear it for you !!!

Originally Posted by JiraiyaSensei Ok, that's true Maybe now he doesn't need anyone to supress the Kyuubi anymore and can just train as much he wants using Kagebunshin...If he has the time

Yeah for sure, now the potentials are unlimited, just a matter of finding the time

[Psychonault]

Originally Posted by Kushan Hi, thanks for discussing this topic, well the way I look at it is, it�s more to do with lack of time and availability of a supervisor up until now, the only time he has concentrated on training was when he was with Jiraiya, since the moment he got back from this training either he has been occupied or there has been no one to supervise his training i.e. The nimju shotai which was mobilised to combat Akatsuki, hunting for Uchiha Itachi,

The fat written is the part I can't understand xD Why the i.e. ??? and why at the end of the sentence ??? And the last sentence is also strange, what connection does it have with the topic ???