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    Prime hiruzen

    Okay so this guy is such a mystery . We all. Know the 3rd Hokage hiruzen sarutobi of the sarutobi clan.
    Now he is hailed as a god shinobi an in part 1 was said to have surpassed both the 1st and 2nd now we all find it hard to believe BUT hiruzen sarutobi seemed to do something that actually is unnatural.
    The 5 elements
    Now we know that some people actually can master ALL FIVE natures but it is extremely difficult as most jonin only 2 maybe 3 even itachi was only shown to have 2 water and fire kakashi the copy ninja was shown to master 3 earth water and lightning with fire in the anime

    Now it seems that there are a number of shinobi that have mastered the 5 natures
    Kakuzu nagato hagoromo BUT nagato and hagoromo had the advantage if mastering the natures through the rinnegan
    And we know kakazu stole his enemy's hearts others stole chakra
    Itachi himself has all 5 through his yata mirror and the people who wield bashosen
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    The third seemed to master all 5 naturally
    Now does anyone else atleast starting to believe his hype at all?
    Any opinions about prime hiruzen?
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    by his time the first and second hokage's strengths were believed to be fairy tale!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Great piont.I see it alot more now.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Doesn't exist .
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Is Fanfiction.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Prime hiruzen is kishi's masterpiece. Haters be nuetralized GG.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Hiruzen's Nuetralizer is so strong that he neutralises the Neutralizer's hype.

    :tonguetied:
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Naruto has more than him...

     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Ugh..

    His hype was only during part 1. Back then Kishi didn't plan the story that further ahead.

    Hashirama is the strongest, Hiruzen's hype remains in part 1.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    prime hiruzen ? nice fanfic btw , not decent but good
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Guys it's the fact how hard it is to master all 5 I'm not saying he's stronger then hashirama at all but we ARE underestimating him the sarutobi has an ability where they master higher rank Jutsu a lot easier you guys aren't even taking this stuff into consideration
    NOT ONE shinobi has mastered all 5 element chakras NATURALLY NOT ONE
    Even hashirama himself mastered 2 and a Kekkei genkai
    Naruto gained his THROUGH the sages power

    He was also stated to be the strongest kage ATM that includes A
    I'm not sayin he is the strongest kage cause I would never put him above even minato let alone hashirama but my is don't you think we understimate him people put him on par with tsunade when I actually put him above or equal par with tobirama who is absolutely no slouch
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by 24farone View Post
    Any opinions about prime hiruzen?
    Plot is restricting Hiruzen sama
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    I would put him above tsunade but not anyone else Tobirama still has FTG so I don't put him on par or above him.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    prime hiruzen sounds like a dish you'd order at a stakehouse
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengedcrowzX View Post
    I would put him above tsunade but not anyone else Tobirama still has FTG so I don't put him on par or above him.
    Mum speculating what he was capable of he was said to have mastered majority of the Jutsu inside of the hidden leaf he master the rds he probably doesn't have the chakra for that stuff anymore
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by HashiraMadara View Post
    by his time the first and second hokage's strengths were believed to be fairy tale!!!!
    During Hiruzen's time both Hashirama and Tobirama were in there primes. The same people who saw hiruzen during his first hokage reign were also alive to see hashirama and tobirama during theres.

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengedcrowzX View Post
    I would put him above tsunade but not anyone else Tobirama still has FTG so I don't put him on par or above him.
    Hiruzen slaughters tobirama
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Prime Hiruzen knows all Konoha techs.

    Since Sasuke is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows the Rinnegan swap.

    Since Naruto is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows Bijuu FRS.

    He also can use Kamui to the level of current Kakashi
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by Zakler2k9 View Post
    prime hiruzen ? nice fanfic btw , not decent but good
    Not decent but good lol I would assume good is better then decent?
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju Bean View Post
    Prime Hiruzen knows all Konoha techs.

    Since Sasuke is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows the Rinnegan swap.

    Since Naruto is of Konoha, Prime Hiruzen knows Bijuu FRS.

    He also can use Kamui to the level of current Kakashi
    Would you shut up you know exactly what I mean he knows all of hidden Jutsu written in the scrolls stfu

    The HIDDEN LEAFS Jutsu isn't referring the Jutsu people later gained dumbass it's referring the Jutsu that's in the hidden leafs scrolls kind of like the shadow clone fire techniques perhaps FTG and some of those techniques cause they are techniques created by tobirama

    It's similar to the hidden stones Jutsu
    They have more advanced earth styles that can be learned by anyone but it's considered THE HIDDEN STONES Jutsu
    I'm not referring to Kekkei genkais like the sharingan and **** jinchuriki power now stfu stop being a smart ass
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Mastering all 5 elements is all but unheard of because he was the only shinobi to do it naturally that we've ever seen. However, simply having all 5 elements is nothing compared to having KKG. Having all elements is like using addition but having KKG is like using multiplication, where multiplication stacks up much faster. So having all 5 is nice, but simply having wood jutsu or a sharingan is better than all 5 elements imo.

    Basically I'm saying that having all 5 helps to legitimize some of his hype, but he still falls short of the first hokage and many others.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    His student (Legendary three Ninja) > Prime Hiruzen (whatever u call)
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by MickNerks View Post
    During Hiruzen's time both Hashirama and Tobirama were in there primes. The same people who saw hiruzen during his first hokage reign were also alive to see hashirama and tobirama during theres.
    That's not true. When Hiruzen took over he was a teenager, and both Hashi and Tobi were dead. The current adults who saw Prime Hiruzen weren't even born or were toddlers when Tobirama was Hokage.

    I think this is where his hype comes from, adults in the naruto-verse current time had no idea about monsters like Hashi, Tobi, and Madara. If you read any of the war arc it's made pretty clear that compared to modern ninja these guys were on a whole other level. Hiruzen was one of the last ninja of this monster era. Kinda like a bridge between monster and modern levels.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Quote Originally Posted by Draxus View Post
    That's not true. When Hiruzen took over he was a teenager, and both Hashi and Tobi were dead. The current adults who saw Prime Hiruzen weren't even born or were toddlers when Tobirama was Hokage.

    I think this is where his hype comes from, adults in the naruto-verse current time had no idea about monsters like Hashi, Tobi, and Madara. If you read any of the war arc it's made pretty clear that compared to modern ninja these guys were on a whole other level. Hiruzen was one of the last ninja of this monster era. Kinda like a bridge between monster and modern levels.
    Yes honestly I thought you were disagreeing at first saying hiruzen wasn't
    I believe hiruzen was the last to have that kind of power that monster power and after that ninja gradually got weaker with exceptions of certain shinobis like the fourth orochimaru jiraiya hanzo and of course who we are saying right

    At the most I put hiruzen at a tobirama level because even the people they were with said out of anyone he has the best chance at surviving you have to assume they even included tobirama tobirama decided against and left his torch to hiruzen feeling he was the best suited for hokage
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    The so called Prime Hiruzen would be the most powerfull not related to Rikudou shinobi. His physical stats would be top notch and in databook he would get perfect 40.

    I believe he could pull very powerfull nature elements technique, let's say on Madara's Katon level.

    He would still loose to Prime Healthy Nagato and any one above: Hagoromo, Hamura, Kaguya, Current Kakashi, Obito, Madara, Naruto, Sasuke ,Hashirama in no order.
     
         

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    Re: Prime hiruzen

    Sdfu .
    This is worser than Ramen Guy jokes.
     
         

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