Discussion: Naruto Vs. Kisame

[neokhiladi]

Based on following facts give ur views and theory...

Who will be more Stronger..????????????

Comparison:- Between Two

1):- Till now in manga we have seen Kisame hidden powers and his muderous sword. Which have the power to even beat down a person who well known for his perfect control over bijuu in ninja word.

Kisame Power

a):- Samehada (Most fearable sword)(All of us Now quite familiar
with its ability.)
b):- Kisame ability to fuse with sword make him more dangerous.
c):- Kisame have advantage as he have the ability to capture his enemy
in water barrier.
i) in water his speed and power increase many times more than
on land.
ii) his enemy have disadvantage as his enemy got choked in water
d):- Kisame abillity to heal himself by using enemy chakra make him
invincible.

2):- On other hand we have seen naruto Vs. pain fighting in which pain has appeared as most powerful person in ninja world. But naruto beat him till death. Where pain has been compared with all mighty god. who have power to change the world. But Naruto not only beat him but he manage to revived all lifes lost in battle.

a):- Most Fearful Naruto weapon. Naruto Will power never to give up.
Because of which naruto not only defeat his enemy but also turn
them to better human.
b):- Naruto Sage mode. If kisame samehada try to suck naruto
chakra then may be samehada have also changed to toad
as pain seen in last manga as upto now samehada look as a
living being.
c):- Kyuubi factor as kyuubi is most powerful among all tailed beast.
d):- As we have seen in earlier manga that bcoz of kyuubi chakra
naruto skin start burning and his blood start evaporating. May
kyuubi chakra have the power to evaporate all water produce
by kisame while creating water barrier.
e):- Naruto healing power is same as Kisame.
f):- Naruto speed increase in sage mode. But Sage mose Last for
few minutes only.
g):-Naruto Favorite rasengan shuriken and odama rasengan.
Which one attack can kill any enemy.

IF any thing i forget then plz add that in comment and poll. Who you think win.

[Valkyria]

Assuming that the Samehada turns into stone after absorbing natural energy, which is very likely, then Naruto will easily handle a Samehada-less Kisame. Even if Naruto uses bushins to distract Kisame and is in the process of gathering the energy and get's intercepted, the same thing is going to happen.

[TimUsher]

It deoends on two things,

• How much Naruto relies on the kyuubi
• Whether or not Samehada will change into ston

I chose these because if Naruto uses Kyuubi it is supposed to have unlimited chakra, and if Kisame loses Samehada he is just a jonin with advanced water jutsu and high chakra.

[HasashiXnexus=<3]

uhm kisames sword absorbs sage chakra and gives it to kisame and he turns into a toad naruto wins simple as that O_O

thats if kisame has samehada if not naruto pwns anyway sage mode is the perfect counter for kisame

[TimUsher]

Originally Posted by gah uhm kisames sword absorbs sage chakra and gives it to kisame and he turns into a toad naruto wins simple as that O_O thats if kisame has samehada if not naruto pwns anyway sage mode is the perfect counter for kisame

no one know if it turns Kisame into stone yet.

[GaaratheFifth]

People forget that Samheda is capable of being damaged. It got some of its scales blown off by Bee. I am pretty sure that one Rasenshuriken would kill Samheda dead.

[Typhon]

So we're assuming Naruto shows up to this battle in Sage mode? If not why are we assuming Naruto will have the time to turn sage mode on?

If Naruto shows up in Sage mode then he wins. If he doesn't, Kisame prevents him from turning sage mode on and Kisame wins.

Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi like Kirabi could control Hachibi so the Kyuubi is a non-factor. Kisame would simply take away the tails before enough came out to be a factor.

2):- On other hand we have seen naruto Vs. pain fighting in which pain has appeared as most powerful person in ninja world. But naruto beat him till death. Where pain has been compared with all mighty god. who have power to change the world. But Naruto not only beat him but he manage to revived all lifes lost in battle.

Naruto lost this fight plain and simple. He was pinned down by chakra sticks at which time Pain could have at any point stuck one through Naruto's head. KO, GG, bye bye Naruto. I hate it when people suggest Naruto won this fight. It also seems like you're suggesting Naruto brought everyone back to life, which he didn't, Pain did. Could just be poor grammar though.

[ZGMFX1586Edea]

Originally Posted by Nanaki So we're assuming Naruto shows up to this battle in Sage mode? If not why are we assuming Naruto will have the time to turn sage mode on? If Naruto shows up in Sage mode then he wins. If he doesn't, Kisame prevents him from turning sage mode on and Kisame wins. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi like Kirabi could control Hachibi so the Kyuubi is a non-factor. Kisame would simply take away the tails before enough came out to be a factor. Naruto lost this fight plain and simple. He was pinned down by chakra sticks at which time Pain could have at any point stuck one through Naruto's head. KO, GG, bye bye Naruto. I hate it when people suggest Naruto won this fight. It also seems like you're suggesting Naruto brought everyone back to life, which he didn't, Pain did. Could just be poor grammar though.

Hmm, if you can say something like that........then I can say something like this................if Naruto has some more training and reach the same age as Pain................Naruto could swat Pain as if he was a fly and he didn't even realize he did that. Unless you are talking about prediction, please stick to the fact stated in the manga. Pain LOST to Naruto hands down, despite the interference from Hinata or other things that might lead to Naruto victory. Furthermore, in this manga.......victory is more than just physically superior, Pain lost to Naruto's way of thinking and indomitable will. SO, if you put in a thread called : Prediction : Can Pain defeat Naruto if there are no outside interferences? I would definitely say YES. But, if you ask me if Naruto is weaker than Pain or Pain is the winner of the fight (without the 'prediction' thingy)........I would definitely say NO. By the way, if Naruto didn't talk to Pain, will the villagers of Konoha revived from death? NO, they won't. SO, Naruto did revive all the villagers......with Pain's help. That's the fact that we should all accept. Remember, don't read manga as plain as reading some children comic books, READ BETWEEN THE LINE and PAGE.

[Valkyria]

Originally Posted by Nanaki So we're assuming Naruto shows up to this battle in Sage mode? If not why are we assuming Naruto will have the time to turn sage mode on? If Naruto shows up in Sage mode then he wins. If he doesn't, Kisame prevents him from turning sage mode on and Kisame wins. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi like Kirabi could control Hachibi so the Kyuubi is a non-factor. Kisame would simply take away the tails before enough came out to be a factor.

Naruto knows that he's a sitting duck whilst he gathers natural energy so he'll probably do what he usually does and distract the opponent long enough with Kagebushins. It won't take him long to get started and even at half way, if Kisame the Samehada finally reach him, they'll be absorbing the natural energy around him that he hasn't balanced yet.

[TimUsher]

Originally Posted by Nanaki So we're assuming Naruto shows up to this battle in Sage mode? If not why are we assuming Naruto will have the time to turn sage mode on? If Naruto shows up in Sage mode then he wins. If he doesn't, Kisame prevents him from turning sage mode on and Kisame wins. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi like Kirabi could control Hachibi so the Kyuubi is a non-factor. Kisame would simply take away the tails before enough came out to be a factor. Naruto lost this fight plain and simple. He was pinned down by chakra sticks at which time Pain could have at any point stuck one through Naruto's head. KO, GG, bye bye Naruto. I hate it when people suggest Naruto won this fight. It also seems like you're suggesting Naruto brought everyone back to life, which he didn't, Pain did. Could just be poor grammar though.

Naruto went from no tails pinned tothe ground straight to six, plus the Kyuubi has unlimited chakra so there is no way for Kisame to take it all. Also if the Kyuubi took over he would use longer range attacks then Naruto so all Kisame could absorb is the chakra from the jutsu and i don't think he could take the chakra naway from the meancing kyuubi ball in time to make it not hurt him.

[TimUsher]

If we assume this is a fight to the death then Naruto/Kyuubi wins.

[narutosharingan]

Originally Posted by Nanaki So we're assuming Naruto shows up to this battle in Sage mode? If not why are we assuming Naruto will have the time to turn sage mode on? If Naruto shows up in Sage mode then he wins. If he doesn't, Kisame prevents him from turning sage mode on and Kisame wins. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi like Kirabi could control Hachibi so the Kyuubi is a non-factor. Kisame would simply take away the tails before enough came out to be a factor. Naruto lost this fight plain and simple. He was pinned down by chakra sticks at which time Pain could have at any point stuck one through Naruto's head. KO, GG, bye bye Naruto. I hate it when people suggest Naruto won this fight. It also seems like you're suggesting Naruto brought everyone back to life, which he didn't, Pain did. Could just be poor grammar though.

yeah but there is a limit to the amount of chakra it can take and considering the 9-tails kisame would be dead

[Typhon]

Originally Posted by TimUsher Naruto went from no tails pinned tothe ground straight to six, plus the Kyuubi has unlimited chakra so there is no way for Kisame to take it all. Also if the Kyuubi took over he would use longer range attacks then Naruto so all Kisame could absorb is the chakra from the jutsu and i don't think he could take the chakra naway from the meancing kyuubi ball in time to make it not hurt him.

He only went straight to 6 tails because of the emotional response he had to seeing Hinata being killed. He doesn't just summon the tails like Kirabi could. He summons them in life and death, or highly emotional situations. He doesn't like the use the Kyuubi so he tries to suppress it as long as he possible can.

If Kisame critically injures Naruto, but makes the mistake of not killing him, then the tails would most certainly come out. But if Kisame critically injures Naruto and kills him, then the Kyuubi is a non-factor.


You guys have to remember that Naruto doesn't have the ability to control the Kyuubi. Some of you keep saying stuff like "Naruto just goes 6 tails and wins" but Naruto can't "just go 6 tails". He only uses the kyuubi in response to emotional stress. He has no emotional ties to Kisame so where is he getting this emotional stress from?

[Rishawn]

Originally Posted by Nanaki So we're assuming Naruto shows up to this battle in Sage mode? If not why are we assuming Naruto will have the time to turn sage mode on? If Naruto shows up in Sage mode then he wins. If he doesn't, Kisame prevents him from turning sage mode on and Kisame wins. Naruto cannot control the Kyuubi like Kirabi could control Hachibi so the Kyuubi is a non-factor. Kisame would simply take away the tails before enough came out to be a factor. Naruto lost this fight plain and simple. He was pinned down by chakra sticks at which time Pain could have at any point stuck one through Naruto's head. KO, GG, bye bye Naruto. I hate it when people suggest Naruto won this fight. It also seems like you're suggesting Naruto brought everyone back to life, which he didn't, Pain did. Could just be poor grammar though.

ya ppl do say that alot what they dont realize thoa pein wasnt trying to kill naruto in dat fight becuz if he was........

[HasashiXnexus=<3]

Originally Posted by TimUsher no one know if it turns Kisame into stone yet.

uhh he cant control sage chakra yet so once he was fed it he would be a frog