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    Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    People Kamui doesn't defeat anyone.. If you have looked at the times Kamui was used, it was to always avoid something.. Its not overpowering someone, or making yourself strong enough to hit them. Kamui is a simple teleportation technique. That is why it doesn't count as defeating someone.

    This is why all the comments about Kamui like, " Kamui solos hashirama/Madara/ Naruto" are a fail.. cause all they do is teleport them to a another dimension. I don't see how thats soloing the person.

    Sure Kamui can be used to defeat the enemy.. Obito uses it all the time.. he makes is own body go to the other dimension and etc. BUT when you use it on another person it is a simple teleportation.

    If teleporting someone to a different place meant defeating someone then it would count as defeating, but for now it doesn't.


    Defeating someone in a fight means, you physically overpower them and prove that your superior.... not teleport them to a place where you can't touch them. lol.

    I hope I have made my point.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Well, Kakashi almost killed Deidara.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    technically if you kamui someone's head you defeat them.

    but i somewhat agree.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    What if they take just their head? Then they would die ending up in a victory for the user.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Ok, ok I see what you're saying.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Dude u contradicted urself.........3rd paragraph
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    cukoo !!

    What happens when a Kamui user warps a characters head to the other dimension ? (only the head) Tell me ?
     
         
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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    You're completely incorrect.

    1. Kamui their head. Opponent's defeated.
    2. Kamui them to another dimension. There they will die or starvation/dehydration. Technically, Kamui defeated them.

    I'm sure there are other ways to defeat someone with Kamui.

    Also, you can only win a fight physically? Talk to Conqueror's/King's Haki.
     
         
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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphîm View Post
    Well, Kakashi almost killed Deidara.
    i almost killed the joker but it doesnt count unless you finish the job
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Well, we're waiting OP.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    kamui headshot
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BATMAN View Post
    i almost killed the joker but it doesnt count unless you finish the job
    You wish.. ''¬¬
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    I already knew this :D...well the parts that are true.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    If the opponent can't fight anymore they lose, its as simple as that. When you get Kamui'd you can't fight anymore so you lose.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphîm View Post
    Well, Kakashi almost killed Deidara.
    he almost teleported him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Steel View Post
    technically if you kamui someone head you defeat them.

    but i somewhat agree.
    Then Obito should be dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    What if they take just their head? Then they would die ending up in a victory for the user.
    Ask Obito. And when has it happened?
    Quote Originally Posted by uchihaminato19 View Post
    Dude u contradicted urself.........3rd paragraph
    O-o Don't see how.. If you had read the top 2 paragraphs you would know its not a contradiction..
    Quote Originally Posted by J O K E R View Post
    cukoo !!

    What happens when a Kamui user warps a character head to the other dimension, only the head ? Tell ?
    Ask Obito.

    And when has this happened O_o?.. Everytime a Kamui happened the whole person got dragged in Kamui.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke Urameshi View Post
    You're completely incorrect.

    1. Kamui their head. Opponent's defeated.
    2. Kamui them to another dimension. There they will die or starvation/dehydration. Technically, Kamui defeated them.

    I'm sure there are other ways to defeat someone with Kamui.

    Also, you can only win a fight physically? Talk to Conqueror's/King's Haki.
    1. Obito still lives ;]. And when has it happened? Kamui fanboy assumptions with no proof = fails

    2. Starvation defeats them not the person.

    Go learn what a Kings' Haki does. O-o. you overpower the other guy with your will , causing them to physically knock out.

    Why are you comparing teleportation to a will based technique.. lmao.

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    If the opponent can't fight anymore they lose, its as simple as that. When you get Kamui'd you can't fight anymore so you lose.
    With that concept you can teleport yourself away, and declare yourself the winner. =].

    1 vs 1. is a winner or looser. Teleportation doesn't give any.

    When you get Kamui'd you can still fight, but there is noone to fight there. O_o
     
         
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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BATMAN View Post
    i almost killed the joker but it doesnt count unless you finish the job
    Meh, you suck ass... that's why you failed.


    And Kakashi could have killed Deidara if only he had mastered Kamui... obviously. Cut the head off. (O_o)
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Your right kamui has never been used offensively every one fanboys kakashi like hes some type of god cause he has kamui
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Yes, sure, but you can always eject your opponent on the piles of explosives or put him in the fire.
     
         
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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    ....so what? we've never seen perfect susano'o or chikubi tensei kill anyone either, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's op and hard to stop
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    OP strikes back with somethin' fierce. How will the NBers respond? Tune in-- im bored as hell.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by jiraiya lives View Post
    ....so what? we've never seen perfect susano'o or chikubi tensei kill anyone either, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's op and hard to stop
    PS is Susano'o.. and Susano'o has killed plenty, go ask Madara ;]

    Chibaku tensei.. has always been countered somehow ;]

    It is a OP technique.. just like FTG.. but just cause you teleport them away, so you don't have to fight them, doesn't make you stronger then them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphîm View Post
    And Kakashi could have killed Deidara if only he had mastered Kamui... obviously. Cut the head off. (O_o)
    too bad even Obito who has mastered it hasn't cut anyone's body part off with Kamui.. know why? cause when you kamui others .. their whole body gets sucked in.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Kakashi's is the offensive so he can teleport parts but Obito pulls the entire body. (Kakashi's kamui doesnt work on Obito)
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Kakashi had planned on taking down the Gedo Mazo by only sending the Mazo's head. It's definitely possible that Kakashi can take off someone's head although I highly doubt he would ever do so since it's not his style of fighting and also Kakashi wouldn't be able to take off someone's head while in mid-fight but I definitely agree that simply sending an opponent in another dimension does not count as defeating them IMO.
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Kakashi teleported Deidara's arm = He lost the arm
    If he teleported Deidara's head instead = He would have lose his head and without head, you die, simple

    Deidara was simply lucky that Kakashi couldn't control his jutsu at that moment and it only teleported his arm. Use kamui to teleport someone's head or any vital part of the body and it's deadly

    I see your point anyway, but being in the incapacity to fight because of being in another dimension count as a defeat. You can't survive in the other dimension without eating or drinking anyway
     
         

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    Re: Kamui doesn't defeat anyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    2. Starvation defeats them not the person.
    I disagree, a kill is a kill. If I locked you in a box until you starved to death, a court would not likely see it as "starvation killed you"
     
         

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