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    Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    very simple reason why. they limit us. somoene placed at 15 could conceivably defeat 10 if their element or abilities perfectly counter the other. for example, kisame perfectly countered bee but wouldnt be considered his outright superior in all areas.
    they dont take into account from what ive seen
    - locational advantage
    - the elemental rock paper scissors.
    - intelligence and skill
    - perfect counters and immunity to certain attacks but not others.
    - genjutsu in general (simply because a percieved fodder can still trap someone like gai in genjutsu and win instantly. its just hax. and for someone relying on it (danzo), they tend to get ignored in favour of mountain busters. but how can you mountain bust if you cant move?
    - put too much emphasis on destructive power and hype. sure hashirama's "god" but what will he plan to do against 2 or more edos? or 7 pains/gedo mazo/summons attacking from all directions? gaara in a desert? KA? demonic flute? kamui? a character can have one hax OP move and still get overlooked in favour of people hyped to high heaven because its "just one move"
    - how can you truly try and rank the characters anyway? this isnt dbz where theres a linear power system. look at the vs section for the sheer variety of scenarios you can come up with to push the knowledge location and mindset to favour a certain character who with default settings wouldnt have won.

    i stopped making these a while ago for these reasons. and because i care much less about the "strongest most op character".
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    It's also the threads opinion that would eventually start a flame war if for example people say Itachi > Minato. Even though that is obvious.
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    I guess so.
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    I somewhat agree some ppl r just perfect matches against ppl
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    Healthy Nagato has counters for everyone, he has no weakness
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    Quote Originally Posted by ImNotScared View Post
    Healthy Nagato has counters for everyone, he has no weakness
    Hanzo crippled him for life when he was healthy
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    ^ KA could take him down. as could kamui. even edo nagato which is healthy nagato with immortality was limited in terms of movement. give him back his legs and control over himself and geod mazo? yeah that would be pretty deadly

    Hanzo crippled him for life when he was healthy
    that was a young nagato. as madara says, a "brat". nagato got far stronger when he was pain and 40 years old. and then naruto said that the more experienced nagato with all 6 paths in his original body is 10x above what pain was
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    deal with it ppl, hashirama is god of shinobi's.
    shinobi god> failed savior
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    I'd advise you to edit that title as it doesn't use quite a nice language dear sir...
     
         

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    Re: Tiers and Top *insert number* lists suck ass

    deal with it ppl, hashirama is god of shinobi's.
    shinobi god
    no. he was merely called that. like minato is called yellow flash and hiruzen is called the professor. besides orochimaru is more informed than suigetsu so hiruzen god title > hashirama god title. there have been several people admired as shinobi gods, not just hashi.
     
         

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