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    Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Kishimoto has ended the long wars on who is the stronger one , between Shodai or Sandai aka the First or the Third.


    Thank you Kishimoto. How many other were relieved after this? I mean many of us were thinkin he'll show them fighting and we'll see whose the stronger one. But Hiruzen's Hype of "God of Shinobi" just declined. HOWEVER,this just leads to a bigger question, was the Hiruzen hype all fake? Was it a typo? or was it that he was only "Said" to be called the God of shinobi. While Hashirama IS the god of shinobi.

    Furthermore, the view difference of the second hokage and the first. Very very interesting. I was actually shocked at how Tobirama felt about the Uchiha. Like dude are you really that scared ? lol. But I understand though. However he didn't really segregate them. Unlike the events of the post-Kyuubi/Obito attack.



    PERSONALITIES:

    Hashirama : Man this just turned out to be wayy more cooler then I thought the Shodai would be. The guy is a true King. ahahahhahaha. He personally reminds me of Goku's older version, and how Naruto might be when hes older.

    Tobirama came out as that "Snotty/spoiled/tough-actin" younger brother.

    Minato: freakin cool ass attitude, man this guy is freaking COOL.

    Hiruzen: same old same old. But he kinda seems like not that same Sarutobi, due to the presence of the other 2 Big hokages.


    Like and Dislikes about the above stuff:

    Likes:

    - Hashirama's personality
    - the baby Tsunade xD awsomeee
    - Minato's personality
    - How Hashirama views the Uchiha.
    - Suigetsu's reactions lol.



    - The overall, chapter itself.
    - Oro was actually pretty cool for the first time.. lol
    - The Hokage's reactions LOL
    - Minato and Hashirama convo


    Dislikes:
    - Tobirama's attitude, its not really his personality that I hate , but him going against what his brother told him to do.
    - Sasuke not showing respect
    - same with Oro not showing respect
    - the way they kind of set the chapter up, I thought it would be more likely a chronological thing, but I guess not.


    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE HOKAGES?
    AND THE THINGS YOU LIKED AND DIDN'T LIKE IN THE CHAPTER.
    ALSO, THE "GOD OF SHINOBI" THING.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Hiruzen solos. On topic i liked all of their personalities. Especially Tobirama's. Wouldnt change a thing about this chapter except the length.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    I agree with just about everything you said. Hashi is much more laid back then tobirama which shocked me a little but was a nice surprise.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Wow you really took your time with this thread ey
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Space Cowboy View Post
    Hiruzen solos. On topic i liked all of their personalities. Especially Tobirama's. Wouldnt change a thing about this chapter except the length.
    More length to it ? or less?
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Tobirama's attitude is badass
     
         

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    I thought this was great! I was upset with Tobirama's personality but relieved when I realized he did everything for Konoha. He is the polar opposite of Hashirama and they make a great pair. He is still my favorite character!
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    i think that Kishimoto didnt know what the manga would develop into, and how massive hashirama's character would play in the manga at the early stages, so he named hiruzen "the god of shinobi"
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Hiruzen was called "GOD OF SHINOBI" cause what he did in his prime.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    More length to it ? or less?
    Longer. I wasnt expecting it i just want to see Sasuke's final decision and what the kages have to say so bad already. If Kishi switches back to the battle ill be pissed.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollnojutsu View Post
    I agree with just about everything you said. Hashi is much more laid back then tobirama which shocked me a little but was a nice surprise.
    I agree. I thought Hashirama would be that quiet , "talk only when needed to talk" type lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by uchiha zako View Post
    Wow you really took your time with this thread ey
    Hell yea, I have been waitin over 2 freaking years!!!!!!!!!!. I want a good discussion thread on this epic epic chapter.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    I agree with you on most of it like minato being cool and the little version of tsunade.

    But i dont think the villians would show respect to anyone
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    i agree with it all
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    i think the reason why both hiruzen and hashi were both called the god of shinobi is because he didnt want it like most mangas where you always know who is the strongest
    and it's also people in the manga's opinion
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Beast View Post
    I agree with you on most of it like minato being cool and the little version of tsunade.

    But i dont think the villians would show respect to anyone
    well suigetsu sure was showing Hashirama some respect lol.

    However I liked how Minato addressed Oro as "orochimaru-san"

    Quote Originally Posted by Space Cowboy View Post
    Longer. I wasnt expecting it i just want to see Sasuke's final decision and what the kages have to say so bad already. If Kishi switches back to the battle ill be pissed.
    Same here, for the first time ever I would be mad at Kishimoto. But that is a good writing strategy. lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~WastelandSociety~ View Post
    Hiruzen was called "GOD OF SHINOBI" cause what he did in his prime.
    But then he should've kept that name. I guess it was not due to power, but due to something else. Like controlling the strongest village or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by JTO View Post
    i think that Kishimoto didnt know what the manga would develop into, and how massive hashirama's character would play in the manga at the early stages, so he named hiruzen "the god of shinobi"
    Probably could be the reason, but It would be kind of weird. But , now we know that even in the current era Hashirama is hailed as the God of Shinobi. But you know him and Tobirama were called "the best shinobi of the leaf"
    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    i think the reason why both hiruzen and hashi were both called the god of shinobi is because he didnt want it like most mangas where you always know who is the strongest
    and it's also people in the manga's opinion
    Well that sure in hell was a smart move by Kishi tho. But its obvious now who the stronger one is.

    But what suigetsu said is how Hashirama is hailed as/called as in the current world.

    But I guess what people said about Hiruzen could be the people in the manga's opinion.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Hashirama and Tobirama can't both be silly, now.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Great thread! I agree with everything
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    There can only be 2 god of shinobi and one isn't Hiruzen...
    I'll believe Hiruzen is the god of shinobi when it's updated in the manga. No disrespect, Hiruzen fans.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Was the rest of the OP made to cover up your first topic?

    I bet Hashirama has a serious side to him. But I can just imagine what he's like on the battlefield..

    Madara: "Heh, so this is the leader of the Senj-
    Hashirama: "HEY YOURE AN UCHIHA RIGHT! MAN THATS COOL SO ARE WE LIKE COUSINS!??"

    Maybeeee an over exaggeration but still lol
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Man, I really liked it; the only thing that got on my nerves was when Tobirama said "Silence!" to his older brother, and Hashi obeyed... That was kind of a moment I didn't enjoy...

    However, aside from Tobirama's high-and-mighty attitude, I really liked everyone... Especially Hashirama's reaction to Tsunade being Hokage! "Is... the village... okay?"
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Oh my this will be fun.

    Kishi hasn't ended anything.

    Hiruzen's hype hasn't been "declined" i fail to see how you think it has.

    Hiruzen Was hailed as god of shinobi, It's fact, No said to of been or any of that.


    Hashirama
    The man who Was said to be


    According to the manga, Hiruzen IS/Was the god of shinobi in his prime, While only hashirama was said to of been, Must suck to be played at your own games huh.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    I liked everything about this chapter tbh.

    I think everyone's personalities fit, even Tobirama's. If you look back on the chapter where Tobi talks about what he did to the Uchiha with the police force, he said they did it to keep an eye on them, so his attitude matched perfectly with what Sasuke was told.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    I still think we don't see the entire aspect of Tobirama....here he is once again brought back by Edo Tensei...already kills the mood.

    Then his personality: he doesn't seem like a spoiled tough guy as much as someone who is just blunt, straight forward, and doesn't sugar coat things. If he doesn't like it, he says he doesn't. While they come off as a prick, there are obviously things he does like and probably if presented with a better circumstance he'd be a little nicer. I mean look at his death scene part. He tells his shinobi that they are the future...clearly not being a **** there.

    He never even really persecuted the Uchiha. Despite the fact that he had trust issues he put did what he could to both help their eye madness problem as well as give them an important role for the village. And why not locate them to where a prison is?! One should have a police quarters by the prison it makes sense....though it could have been a tad bit closer to the actual village and not on the edge.

    He kind of reminds me of Kakashi in that he is in a somewhat serious situstion so on top of having an Uchiha manipulating his own technique....kinda makes sense that he's serious.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drakengard View Post
    Was the rest of the OP made to cover up your first topic?

    I bet Hashirama has a serious side to him. But I can just imagine what he's like on the battlefield..

    Madara: "Heh, so this is the leader of the Senj-
    Hashirama: "HEY YOURE AN UCHIHA RIGHT! MAN THATS COOL SO ARE WE LIKE COUSINS!??"

    Maybeeee an over exaggeration but still lol
    Actually, I could see that now lol.

    Like Madara is all nervous and stuff (shown nervous in Obito's flashback) when he goes against Hashi
    but then Hashi out of nowhere is like, " DUDE LETS HAVE A GOOD FIGHT :DD AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH"
    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Hashirama and Tobirama can't both be silly, now.
    >.> What you tryna say BUB.
    Quote Originally Posted by HashiramaDescendant View Post
    There can only be 2 god of shinobi and one isn't Hiruzen...
    I'll believe Hiruzen is the god of shinobi when it's updated in the manga. No disrespect, Hiruzen fans.
    lmaooo.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto, WTH IS THIS?

    Tobirama is level-Headed, why do people dislike him so much?What he did was LOGICAL, and he speaks the TRUTH, what kind of person could you possibly be to hate the truth!

    He was exactly what Hashirama needed, a brother that keeps him focused and organized, somewhat like a secretary.


    Even though Shodai Hokage wanted to established the leaf, Tobirama was probably the one who organized almost EVERYTHING.

    While Hashirama is too trusting and fun-loving, Tobirama is the realist, that keeps Hashirama focused when needed.The only issue with Tobirama is his frankness, which comes across as mean and bigoted, but IT IS THE TRUTH. That being said, Hashirama reminds his brother to be more compassionate.
     
         

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