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    Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Hiruzen who is hyped to be the strongest Hokage of the history and was the strongest of 5 Kages at the time his death!! Meaning Alive-Old Hiruzen was stronger than Onnoki, Ay

    Edo Tensei means an Immortal body with infinite chakra!

    Edo Hiruzen stats :

    Old Hiruzen has 34 in total. He has 3's in Speed, Stamina, Strength. It wouldn't be an exaggeration if one says that Prime Hiruzen had a perfect 40, I mean he was the God of All Shinobis for a reason.

    Now make Stamina a 5 and strength a 5 [chakra infused] that makes him a 38 and with constant chakra infused speed makes him a perfect 40!

    So statistically he is the strongest shinobi ever to appear in the Manga


    A few things about Hiruzen :

    1. Knows every Jutsu form Konoha meaning he can perform shit load of Jutsus and knows how to counter the one's that he can't perform [KKG Jutsus and Character specific Jutsus] !

    2. Knows more than 1000 illusions that could put Juubi is its place.

    3. Knows how to counter all the MS/EMS techs [Official Fanbook 2 by Masashi Kishimoto] meaning he shits on Madara's PSS.



    Now Hiruzen can overstep Wood style, EMS that pretty much shows why he was hyped and feared by all. The only thing that Hiruzen doesn't know is the Rinnegan abilities but it won't be long before he figures it out.

    He can take on Madara and beat him. Obito also would fail if Hiruzen uses his shadow clone Jutsu. Making it hard for Tobi to use Kamui because if one Hiruzen clone goes into Kamui world or stays outside means KO Tobi!

    Also both Madara and Obito haven't shown any sealing Jutsu so technically they shit their pants if they face Edo Hiruzen

    What do you think?

    PS : This isn't a hate thread or a troll thread. So no flaming please!
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    I don't believe in this mystical prime Hiruzen, but he's essentially Hiruzen prime now (actually he's stronger than what "Hiruzen prime" would have been.) so I guess only time will tell.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    oh no another Hiruzen fanboy.....
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    This is a TROLL BOGARD sit down somewhere with your uchiha hate
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    What do you mean counter the EMS techniques?? I don't see him countering Perfect Susanoo.

    Until now Hiruzen is all hype and nothing more. We might see what he can do in the near future (or not :P)
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Madara Uchiha~ View Post
    oh no another Hiruzen fanboy.....
    Oh no another madara fanboy....
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Madara Uchiha~ View Post
    oh no another Hiruzen fanboy.....
    lol u have the same avatar as him....................btw hiruzen isnt that strong
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    A few things:

    I doubt that Hiruzen's strength or speed were much higher in his prime. He probably did have a much higher stamina rating though. We have never seen anything that shows that Hiruzen can chakra infuse his strength like Sakura. Nor that he was as fast on his feet as Guy.

    In what way can Hiruzen stop PS? A normal Susanoo I can see, but not the gigantic PS.

    Hiruzen will probably end up using the Reaper Death Seal to seal Madara after the 4 Hokage have roughed him up a bit.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    This is lame bogard.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Altaneen View Post
    I don't believe in this mystical prime Hiruzen, but he's essentially Hiruzen prime now (actually he's stronger than what "Hiruzen prime" would have been.) so I guess only time will tell.
    Really cuz hashirama fanboys will claim up and down that edo hashirama isn't as strong as a living hashirama so why or how should a edo hiruzen be superior to a prime hiruzen.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Altaneen View Post
    I don't believe in this mystical prime Hiruzen, but he's essentially Hiruzen prime now (actually he's stronger than what "Hiruzen prime" would have been.) so I guess only time will tell.
    Prime Hiruzen has a higher level of chakra as opposed to old Hiruzen so it may put limits on his abilities, but more or less they are equal so we'll see.

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    oh no another Hiruzen fanboy.....
    Just stating the facts

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    This is a TROLL BOGARD sit down somewhere with your uchiha hate
    Dafuq?

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    yah i do have the same avatar dont know why he is copying my ava

    OT: Its obvious that you are hating on Uchihas there is no way Hiruzen stands any chance to Obito or Madara until i see this Godly Hiruzen I stand on my case hes and old fart that doesnt even deserve to be in the top 20 strongest ninja
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    you also have forgotten that the old man is under edo tensie aka under oro's control not his own free will
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    If Madara takes on Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama and Edo Hiruzen will be right behind em. While on the other side, it's Sensei Vs Student once again; Edo Minato Vs Obito. As much as I can see, Fuinjutsu is Edo Madara's weakness here. Hiruzen, Minato and Hashirama are skilled in this but I still don't know about Tobirama.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyo4 View Post
    What do you mean counter the EMS techniques?? I don't see him countering Perfect Susanoo.

    Until now Hiruzen is all hype and nothing more. We might see what he can do in the near future (or not :P)
    Kishi has said so himself [Official Fanbook 2]

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    Oh no another madara fanboy....
    Ikr.

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    lol u have the same avatar as him....................btw hiruzen isnt that strong
    He is.

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    A few things:

    I doubt that Hiruzen's strength or speed were much higher in his prime. He probably did have a much higher stamina rating though. We have never seen anything that shows that Hiruzen can chakra infuse his strength like Sakura. Nor that he was as fast on his feet as Guy.

    In what way can Hiruzen stop PS? A normal Susanoo I can see, but not the gigantic PS.

    Hiruzen will probably end up using the Reaper Death Seal to seal Madara after the 4 Hokage have roughed him up a bit.
    The thing that Sakura does isn't that great, It wont surprime me one bit if he says that he was toe one who thought Tsunade how to do it.

    Kishi says Hiruzen knows all the counter

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    This is lame bogard.
    Fuq is wrong with you?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    Really cuz hashirama fanboys will claim up and down that edo hashirama isn't as strong as a living hashirama so why or how should a edo hiruzen be superior to a prime hiruzen.
    Indeed
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    Really cuz hashirama fanboys will claim up and down that edo hashirama isn't as strong as a living hashirama so why or how should a edo hiruzen be superior to a prime hiruzen.
    Hashirama was controlled sloppily by Orochimaru, if he was roaming free will he would have been stronger.

    As for Hiruzen prime, his old age would have effected his stamina/chakra. Neither of which is an issue for an Edo. This is with the assumption Orochimaru lets them fight uncontrolled.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Q of the Sharingan View Post
    A few things:

    I doubt that Hiruzen's strength or speed were much higher in his prime. He probably did have a much higher stamina rating though. We have never seen anything that shows that Hiruzen can chakra infuse his strength like Sakura. Nor that he was as fast on his feet as Guy.

    In what way can Hiruzen stop PS? A normal Susanoo I can see, but not the gigantic PS.

    Hiruzen will probably end up using the Reaper Death Seal to seal Madara after the 4 Hokage have roughed him up a bit.
    Hiruzen had difficulty carrying his staff then he commented on how he had gotten weaker, and during the whole duration of the fight Enma was saying stuff like you are in "pitiful" state and was shocked at how Hiruzen was getting punched around. His staff can probably send PS flying . Or he can use mud to immobilize it or something.
     
         
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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    The kages haven't started yet and it's still unknown if they will eventhough it's really doubtful that they won't try a thing. Maybe we should wait and see what happens, but i'm pretty sure that each Hokage will surprise us by some new tricks. Who could have imagine Madara to be this strong when he appeared? Nice thread anyway
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Madara will lough at hiruzen like a baws
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    every hokage is 40/40 in Edo Mode :P :P :P so much for your theory
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Altaneen View Post
    Hashirama was controlled sloppily by Orochimaru, if he was roaming free will he would have been stronger.

    As for Hiruzen prime, his old age would have effected his stamina/chakra. Neither of which is an issue for an Edo. This is with the assumption Orochimaru lets them fight uncontrolled.
    No, it affected everything according to Enma. He is definitely stronger in this state than in the fight with Oro, but he still lacks a young strong and fast body.
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    lets wait & see shall we
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Madara Uchiha~ View Post
    yah i do have the same avatar dont know why he is copying my ava

    OT: Its obvious that you are hating on Uchihas there is no way Hiruzen stands any chance to Obito or Madara until i see this Godly Hiruzen I stand on my case hes and old fart that doesnt even deserve to be in the top 20 strongest ninja
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Madara Uchiha~ View Post
    you also have forgotten that the old man is under edo tensie aka under oro's control not his own free will
    I stole yours? pff Looks at date joined :sy: Also mine looks a 1000 times better than your pixelated avatar

    Also no hate on Uchihas why would I hate two of my fav characters. I hate Sasuke and others but I like both Tobi and Madara. I've stated facts thats all

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    If Madara takes on Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama and Edo Hiruzen will be right behind em. While on the other side, it's Sensei Vs Student once again; Edo Minato Vs Obito. As much as I can see, Fuinjutsu is Edo Madara's weakness here. Hiruzen, Minato and Hashirama are skilled in this but I still don't know about Tobirama.
    Why not
     
         

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    Re: Edo Hiruzen is Madara and Co.'s worst nightmare

    I don't know why, but I want Madara to wreck Hiruzen...like shame him so badly that it's not even a contest.
     
         

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