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    Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    In latest chapter, we all saw a beast holding Sasuke in hands...

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    So, I thought this is a correct time to post this theory. I had this in mind for quite a long time. I also created a thread on this topic[http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...container.html]...
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    I dont know whether such thread is created before, if yes please delete the thread, if not then enjoy.This is in the theories section and therefore that is all it is; a theory. If you disagree, that is fine, but please don't turn this thread into a Sasuke-bash or flame war. 2. Yes I realize some of these ideas have been hinted at before, this is simply my interpretation and I believe it is a bit more complete than previous theories on this idea. 3. All of this is based on studying the manga only, the anime is a bit too liberal in changing things for any solid information to be based upon it. 4. Some of you may think this borders on fan fiction, if so I apologize. I merely wanted to make it thorough as well as enjoyable to read. Granted I had to make some stuff up to fill in a few holes, but it's all possible. Enjoy!
    This is a theory I found on NarutoFan. Credit goes to original creator
    Author:-Grave....
    Source:-The container of "Suzaku": Uchiha Sasuke - Naruto Forums

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    Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Pride, superiority, arrogance, power. These are common traits of members of the "elite" Uchiha clan, once the enforcers of law among all of Konohagakure. But it is my belief that, for this power, the clan paid a price. Desperate to elevate the name of his clan above all others, one of the founding fathers of the Uchiha infiltrated a hidden shrine which was known the be the resting place of the phoenix "Suzaku". Inside he found nothing but a simple artifact, although he knew Suzaku was merely trapped inside, a prisoner of an ancient sealing technique. By slicing his hand, and touching the artifact with his blood and flesh, he was able to open a limited form of communication with Suzaku, and offered to free him from his imprisonment in exchange for a blessing of power bestowed upon his entire clan, both living and to be born. In truth, he knew of no way to shatter the seal upon the artifact and release Suzaku's physical form, but in the end Suzaku formulated it's own plan, and a pact was made. The Uchiha's would henceforth be blessed with the blood of Suzaku, giving them greater physical potential than any normal human, and better yet, the ability to awaken the doujutsu "Sharingan". In return, as the Uchiha's grew in power, so would Suzaku's influence and hold upon them. Eventually, when the perfect Uchiha was born, so too would Suzaku's spirit be reborn into the world, hidden away inside the body of the chosen - until those loyal to Suzaku could extract him from the body and release him upon the world once more. This in a nutshell, is the "original purpose" Itachi talks about. The Uchiha Clan was meant to re-release Suzaku upon the world, and being superior shinobi due to its blessing, no one could stop them once they were ready.

    So, as we've seen with nearly all the Uchiha in the series, this man sought power more than anything, without regard to the consequences. It is the tragic flaw of the Uchiha.
    Naruto 220 page 12 | One Manga
    "The only ones who can enforce the laws on shinobi's crimes...are superior shinobi."

    Naruto 223 page 09 | One Manga
    "The Uchiha family trait is the manipulation of fire. The mind of an Uchiha..."
    (Uchiha's are natural users of Katon jutsu, due to the influence of the phoenix in their blood)...

    Naruto 142 page 14 | One Manga
    "You can use the SHARINGAN to that extent. However your blood is not like ours." (this is why Kakashi can never use the Sharingan to its fullest extent, he does not have the cursed blood of a true Uchiha. He has the Mangekyou, but can not use it the way Itachi used to, Kakashi tires quickly..)

    (This doesn't have to be exactly how it happened for the theory to work, this is one part I just had to use my imagination on. The point is simply that the Uchiha clan made a pact with Suzaku at one point, and their abilities plus the sharingan are a direct result of demonic influence. The only odd thing you might find here is: how can Suzaku simply move from the artifact into a perfect Uchiha body? Well, I believe since Suzaku is a Phoenix type youma, perhaps it's not farfetched to consider it allowing itself to "die" in a way, only to be reborn from the ashes inside this new vessel.)

    Years, likely centuries later, the Uchiha are a clan to be feared, and with each generation they only seem to grow stronger and stronger. One night, an elite shinobi even by the standards of the Uchiha, was visited by Suzaku in a dream. "Nakano shrine, on the far right side, under the 7th tatami mat..." Curious, the shinobi followed these vague directions and discovered a hidden meeting place, known only to the elders of the Uchiha clan, the keepers of the clan's dark secret. Here, the shinobi found texts hinting at an even greater power, as well as the true purpose of the Uchiha clan - to awaken Suzaku. That night, guided by his lust for power and newfound information, the shinobi murdered the one closest to him, and the first "Mangekyou Sharingan" was obtained. It is here that the common flaw in the Uchiha clan showed itself once again. The shinobi became angry and jealous after learning of this "perfect Uchiha", as well at the fact that the prestigious clan owed it's strength to a demon. The shinobi became disgusted with the clan as a whole, and left the village, but not before sharing the secret of the meeting place with his/her son - Uchiha Shisui.

    The closest to the "perfect Uchiha" to ever grace the clan thus far, was Uchiha Itachi. He graduated from the academy in only one year, and was quickly inducted into the ANBU. Those that knew the secret of the clan watched him closely, thinking perhaps he may be the chosen Uchiha, and they would have to perform the extraction after a certain age. But then...

    Uchiha Sasuke was born. This was the turning point. Suzaku's true spirit was no longer sealed inside the artifact, deep in that forgotten shrine. It was inside this boy, the perfect vessel. And yet, to Suzaku's dismay, it found that this boy's body was in a way, another prison. Although now at least, it could see the world through this boy instead of being trapped inside the shrine. And so, Suzaku waited. It waited and watched as the boy grew.

    (At this point I consider Suzaku similar to Kyuubi, it's inside Sasuke and can watch everything that is happening to him, but not directly talk to or influence him. It is still imprisoned in a sense like Kyuubi is in Naruto, until the loyalists extract him.)

    During Sasuke's childhood, Suzaku saw a glimmer of hope. A flaw in this boy's innocence, and a powerful tool. Sasuke was in a way, similar to that first Uchiha so long ago, with a great desire to prove himself and wear his clan symbol with pride. It was Sasuke's brother Itachi that first sparked this emotion in him, who constantly sought his Father's approval and attention, only to be thrown to the wayside under the shadow of Itachi. What at first started as innocent admiration for his brother's prowess, soon turned to jealousy, which came to border on the one thing Suzaku could use: hatred.

    Naruto 221 page 19 | One Manga
    "I'm the barrier you must overcome, so you and I will continue to exist together, even if you hate me. That's what being an elder brother means."

    Due to the fact that Suzaku's influence over Sasuke was so small, no one suspected him as being the chosen Uchiha. They continued watching Itachi grow while his younger brother, though impressive in his own right simply did not seem to be of the same caliber as Itachi. The truth of the matter was that Sasuke actually held much more potential than Itachi, but Suzaku residing inside him held him back in the same way Kyuubi did Naruto before he learned to control it. Sasuke was still such a genius that it was hardly noticed, but it kept him from standing out and surpassing or at least matching Itachi's abilties at the same age. Despite this, Sasuke had a goal, and that was to surpass Itachi and gain approval from his father.

    Itachi and Shisui were by now great friends, as we all know. Shortly after Itachi was appointed captain of the ANBU, he saw his best friend less and less. Shisui became isolated and depressed, and eventually sent word to Itachi requesting that he meet him on a specific night. While the rest of the clan were at a meeting, Itachi went to the place Shisui had directed him to in his letter...the Nakano Shrine. Here Shisui showed Itachi the secrets of the clan, the Mangekyou, Suzaku, everything. He then understood why Shisui had become depressed, he too felt a sudden disgust for his own clan. Shisui then explained to Itachi that he aimed to commit suicide because he felt such disgrace at being part of this demonic clan, but then decided he would allow Itachi to kill him if he wished to attempt to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan, but only if he would grant Shusui one request.

    They made their way outside, to the banks of the Nakano River. Here Shisui spoke his final wish. He requested that Itachi completely wipe out the Uchiha Clan...
    Whenever the elders discovered the container, they would unseal Suzaku and Konoha would be crushed, and afterwards Suzaku would be free to roam the world causing whatever destruction it pleased. Shisui told Itachi that he felt by completely ending their cursed bloodline, perhaps this would never occur. Itachi agrees, and kills Shisui. As we all know it's staged as a drowning. Itachi obtains the Mangekyou Sharingan. "Thanks to him, I was able to obtain this eye."

    (When Itachi returns, you notice a glaring change in his personality. He's fed up with the clan as a whole, he feels that if the entire clans purpose is to exist until Suzaku can be released, then any of the Uchiha before the "chosen" were just pawns, trash. But he won't accept that, because he considers himself better than that. From this point on Itachi desires power over anything else, the classic Uchiha flaw.)

    "My 'vessel'...is hopeless in this worthless clan." (He feels if he isn't the chosen one then he means nothing to the clan.)(Could not find the link: )

    "You forget what is most important to you because you're not letting go of a lesser thing: the clan. There is no room for change if rules and regulations, expectations and wishes, prevent it from happening."(Could not find the link: )

    (At this point, after he's accused of killing Shisui and spouted off to his Father and the Police Force, you see that once Sasuke yells out to him, he immediately softens up, gets a very sad look on his face, and apologizes. Perhaps he was considering Shisui's request. I think Itachi honestly cares about Sasuke and doesn't want to kill him.Well dat is proved isnt it He never wanted to kill Sasuke...)

    It is during the time between now and the massacre of the clan that Itachi is contacted by the "Third Mangekyou User". I believe Shisui was still in contact with him/her and told them of his plan to allow Itachi to kill him for the Mangekyou. Shortly afterwards, this person returns to Konoha and secretly meets with Itachi. They tell him that the container of Suzaku is none other than Sasuke, but not only this, they inform him of the organization "Akatsuki". This brings everything full circle, Itachi learns about the technique that can transfer a demon from one host to another, joins Akatsuki, and his new goal is set. He will transfer Suzaku from Sasuke into his own body, and become the ultimate "vessel" of the Uchiha. However, if any of the elders of the clan find out Sasuke is the host, they can still extract it from him and release it.

    The solution? Partially fulfill Shisui's request, and kill everyone BUT Sasuke. This way all those in Konoha who would wish to extract it are no longer a threat.

    Itachi does so, he wipes out every single member of the clan leaving only 3 left. The 3 capable of using the Mangekyou Sharingan, which Itachi knows Sasuke must be able to now that he knows he is the chosen one. Now, it seems as though the host has to obtain a certain level of power before Akatsuki wants to extract it, they waited until Gaara was kage level, and they're still letting Naruto become stronger without worry. I think Itachi was informed of this as well, and that heightened emotion was the best way to awaken the youma's abilities in a container. (For Naruto it's protecting his precious people, for Gaara it was bloodthirst at first, but now also protecting his people, for Sasuke it is...HATRED.* More on this at the end of the post.)
    This is why you always see Itachi mentioned hatred around Sasuke, he wants him to awaken the youma's power.

    So, not only did Itachi remove those threats, but as we've seen it sent Sasuke down a spiral of revenge that has allowed him to obtain a much higher level of power than he would have normally. This is exactly what Itachi wanted. After this, he informs Sasuke of the secret meeting place in the Nakano Shrine, he wants Sasuke to see what he has seen. To see that the Uchiha clan were just pawns of a demon, and their prowess as shinobi was not even of their own making. The only words we see Sasuke speak after viewing these secrets are: "I see, so that's how it is..."

    Naruto 142 page 08 | One Manga



    Now, my opinion is that after reading this Sasuke assumes Itachi is the chosen one spoken of in the scripts, and that since the purpose of the clan was to produce him, the clans usefulness was at an end, and in his arrogance decided to test his strength by wiping them out. This is after all the excuse he gave Sasuke. Therefore, Sasuke grows up bent on revenge for his clan and without ever knowing it is actually he that contains Suzaku. He simply returns to his goal of surpassing Itachi, and resurrecting his clan with a true purpose.

    If you're still with me, thanks for sticking with it and I'm almost finished. You recall whenever Naruto was near death he found himself able to see and speak to Kyuubi. Well, one major event for Sasuke that hasn't been revealed to us I think took place inside that barrel. When he had to "die" to complete his seal. At this point I think Sasuke was able to see Suzaku resting inside of him, and realize his vast untapped potential. You notice after this point Sasuke fully lets his darker side take over, and is the reason that even after realizing Naruto has an incredible hidden power of his own, he says, "I am more special than you." He has accepted his destiny at this point, and realizes he doesn't need the Mangekyou to defeat Itachi if he can learn to use the cursed seal in conjuction with Suzaku (which he did slightly by producing wings in his cursed state). So, he doesn't kill Naruto and decides to obtain power "in his own way".

    Naruto 181 page 12 | One Manga
    "I'm different from you all... I can't be following the same path as you guys"

    That's pretty much it folks, he will keep this a secret from Orochimaru as his power grows, and when Oro attempts to perform the body stealing technique, most likely Suzaku will have something to say about it . However, Sasuke is most likely "ripe" in terms of power, and Akatsuki may move to harvest Suzaku at anytime...

    In conclusion, I think the theme of Sasuke's character is "Rebirth". His clan has been destroyed, but he will resurrect it. He has literally "died" inside the barrel, and was reborn with a better understanding of himself. And now metaphorically, Sasuke is falling into darkness but will rise from the ashes and redeem himself by the end.

    Just for fun, I'd like to add a few images that may go along with this theory, as crazy as it may be. These focus on "hatred" being the emotion that can bring Suzaku out in Sasuke.

    The first is from Chapter 146, when Sasuke sees Itachi again for the first time after all these years in the Inn. I think it's safe to say that this is the point in the manga where "hatred" is the strongest in Sasuke, it's the moment he's lived for.
    I haved added some more images to prove my point...
    Look carefully at image posted:-
    1) Here Sasuke uses his chidori:-Look at his hand holding chidori:--

    now look here:--

    The main thing I want to point out here is notice the skin, it's as if the Chidori is burning the skin right off of his hand. At no other point when Sasuke uses this jutsu does it do that, except now when Sasuke's hatred is at it's most intense. Perhaps the flames of the Phoenix are burning...

    do you notice sasuke's hand holding chidori is burning:- Why is that:-
    Here Itachi looks at his hand and says this:--
    (The next one is from 147, and this one is iffy although really cool if you trust the translation. Personally, I think this is a mistranslation but it's fun to think about nonetheless.)

    so what seal is Itachi talking about. At this moment Itachi don't know anything abt oro's seal on sasuke.. However oro's seal starts from neck.........
    We can be sure that it is not oro's seal.....It has nothing to do with Oro......Is Sasuke a container for something: Maybe yes. He came to know about it when he was about to die in oro's barrel..
    You can recall everytime when naruto is near to death he can demon inside him.. So did sasuke saw something in his own body leading him to say this:--


    Something more:-
    According to Wiki:-
    Suzaku:-The Vermilion bird is one of the Four Symbols of the Chinese constellations. According to Wu Xing, the Taoist five-elemental system, it represents the fire-element, the direction south, and the season summer correspondingly. Thus it is sometimes called the Vermilion bird of the South (南方朱雀, Nán Fāng Zhū Què) and it is also known as Suzaku in Japan and Jujak in Korea. It is often mistaken for the Fenghuang due to similarities in appearance, but the two are different creatures. The Fenghuang is the king of birds, while the Vermilion Bird is a mythological spirit creature of the Chinese constellations.

    This bird corresponds to Moon. Which explains Uchiha's obsession with Moon....


    If you can luk at this image of Suzaku and the one at very beginning there is one similarity of number of feathers. They are six...
    That tells why Sasuke has Six point MS...
     
         
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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    i like it there is a picture of a bird on both sides of the Nakano Shrine
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    my only qustion is what up with the shadow it appears its holding sasuke in its hand but if you count the spikes as fingers there are 6. So maybe they are feathers from a wing?
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    quite possible. But I like your idea.
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    great work.....But if i am not wrong you created such thread some time ago....
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCracker View Post
    great work.....But if i am not wrong you created such thread some time ago....
    yes he did.........
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    nice work as always...
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Brilliant !!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Nice work...
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Takes too long to get to the actual point of the theory.

    Most of it is known information and takes 12 paragraphs to even begin the theory.

    So didnt bother reading it lol.

    sorry
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Your theory is great. It sounds like something that could happen.
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    good theory i look forward to it coming true....
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Great work my friend; I do have one question, Where did you get all the information about the Uchiha clan and the story about the Pheonix and the Founding father from?
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1217 View Post
    Great work my friend; I do have one question, Where did you get all the information about the Uchiha clan and the story about the Pheonix and the Founding father from?
    i believe he got the pheonix from a japanese myth (i think) and since he said that the pheonix represented fire i think he put 2 and 2 together to come up with the theory i think...
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by kitu9 View Post
    i believe he got the pheonix from a japanese myth (i think) and since he said that the pheonix represented fire i think he put 2 and 2 together to come up with the theory i think...
    Yeah The Phoenix A Legendary Fire Bird That Flys Across The Sky's And Comes Crash Down To The Ground Raise Up Again And Spread Its Flamming Wings Thats What Ive Heard
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by kitu9 View Post
    i believe he got the pheonix from a japanese myth (i think) and since he said that the pheonix represented fire i think he put 2 and 2 together to come up with the theory i think...
    Quote Originally Posted by uzicanSage View Post
    Yeah The Phoenix A Legendary Fire Bird That Flys Across The Sky's And Comes Crash Down To The Ground Raise Up Again And Spread Its Flamming Wings Thats What Ive Heard
    Forgive me b/c I'm not an expert on Japanese Mythalogy, but were the Uchiha clan and the Sharingan apart of Japanese Mythalogy or just created by Kishi?
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1217 View Post
    Forgive me b/c I'm not an expert on Japanese Mythalogy, but were the Uchiha clan and the Sharingan apart of Japanese Mythalogy or just created by Kishi?
    I Have No Idea But There Was A Thread About Some Where But I Dont Know If Its True But Hold On Give me A Sec
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1217 View Post
    Forgive me b/c I'm not an expert on Japanese Mythalogy, but were the Uchiha clan and the Sharingan apart of Japanese Mythalogy or just created by Kishi?
    not quite sure but in my opinion i think kishi got the uchiha idea from a japanese myth i cant remember it correctly but there was this tengu dude and he had sex with some human chick then they had a baby and he decided to name it uchiwa or sumthing....i dont remember the story correctly but anyway i think he got the idea from a japanese myth also
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by kitu9 View Post
    not quite sure but in my opinion i think kishi got the uchiha idea from a japanese myth i cant remember it correctly but there was this tengu dude and he had sex with some human chick then they had a baby and he decided to name it uchiwa or sumthing....i dont remember the story correctly but anyway i think he got the idea from a japanese myth also
    Yeah Here's The link Im Tryin To Look For The Other One That Points Out The Facts And Back Up The Story Brb Still Looking For It.

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...ha-madara.html
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by kitu9 View Post
    not quite sure but in my opinion i think kishi got the uchiha idea from a japanese myth i cant remember it correctly but there was this tengu dude and he had sex with some human chick then they had a baby and he decided to name it uchiwa or sumthing....i dont remember the story correctly but anyway i think he got the idea from a japanese myth also
    Interesting.
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Takes too long to get to the actual point of the theory.

    Most of it is known information and takes 12 paragraphs to even begin the theory.

    So didnt bother reading it lol.

    sorry
    I am trying to say, Uchiha got Sharingan from a phoenix named Suzaku. While giving power bird said, I will reborn in someone who is capable. I think Sasuke is that person. It was said Suzaku will reborn out of anger thats what Tobi said in latest chapter Sasuke is consumed by Ninja worlds hatred making him angry on everyone....And we saw that shadow engulfing Sasuke. I think it is Suzaku doing that...


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    Great work my friend; I do have one question, Where did you get all the information about the Uchiha clan and the story about the Pheonix and the Founding father from?
    At Nakano Shrine there was a pic of Phoenix. Wiki Said Phoenix represents Moon and we all know phoenix means fire. So I added it...


    Quote Originally Posted by kitu9 View Post
    not quite sure but in my opinion i think kishi got the uchiha idea from a japanese myth i cant remember it correctly but there was this tengu dude and he had sex with some human chick then they had a baby and he decided to name it uchiwa or sumthing....i dont remember the story correctly but anyway i think he got the idea from a japanese myth also
    I also dont know whether Uchihas are referred to in Japanese mythology. But there were some theories poniting towards this. I got idea from NarutoFan
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    last paragraph from wiki was interesting .. .. moon ..

    Moon eye plan ??
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    It seems Manga is getting clearer picture...Things are adding up, I think I can come up with one more theory combining two or more theories. It will be more like long term prediction....
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    I am trying to say, Uchiha got Sharingan from a phoenix named Suzaku. While giving power bird said, I will reborn in someone who is capable. I think Sasuke is that person. It was said Suzaku will reborn out of anger thats what Tobi said in latest chapter Sasuke is consumed by Ninja worlds hatred making him angry on everyone....And we saw that shadow engulfing Sasuke. I think it is Suzaku doing that...



    At Nakano Shrine there was a pic of Phoenix. Wiki Said Phoenix represents Moon and we all know phoenix means fire. So I added it...




    I also dont know whether Uchihas are referred to in Japanese mythology. But there were some theories poniting towards this. I got idea from NarutoFan
    If Madara knew about the Suzaku, it explains why he used Zetsu to betray and abandon (temporarily I suppose) in order to awaken it.

    I apologize if I missed this. The phoenix experiences rebirth after burning the strongest, so I assume that the Suzaku may not be a permanent experience for Sasuke? Which, I would hope for because it would allow redemption.

    Alternately, this may be related to the power that Itachi gave Naruto. Namely, the ability to suppress, seal, or remove the Suzaku? I guess Itachi knew about it and hoped it would never awaken it. I don't know, but you certainly have opened up a can of worms, in good way.

    Also, that future thread where you combine theories is most welcome.
     
         

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    Re: Uhiha Sasuke:-A Container for Suzaku....

    My hat goes off to you...

    awesome thread one epic read... :D:D:D

    The container theory is every nice. People might be say container to what?



    don't you think does hands look like Sasukes wings?



    or maybe claws/feet of a Phoenix... Not even Jago can make his body like Sasukes to create wing like hands...

    could be an image of Sasuke hatred consuming him...

    But I like the container/ Phoenix idea better...:D:D:D
     
         

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