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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by kibainuzuka View Post
    nah kakashi is better,he have more experience at all 30 > 18
    Apparently so...
    But he's also faster,smarter,more versatile etc...

    What's faster sand tsunami or kamui?
    No contestation here Kakashi wins hand down.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Hafiz Dembos View Post
    Where was kakuzu's or pain's intelligence and experience when Naruto beat them?!
    thank you!!! I had when ppl try that whole experience conclusion
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Hmph View Post
    wow, this section is worse that i thought, some of you guys seriously need some help. look, gaara is a young kage who has potential to grow, but kakashi is on another level compared to this guy.

    speed- kakashi can physically keep up with v2 jins and obito praised his speed
    taijutsu- kakashi. on part with itachi
    intelligence- kakashi obviously
    ninjutsu same as above
    genjutsu- same as above
    -kenjutsu- same as above
    tactics- same as above

    and to top it all off, kakashi has a jutsu known as kamui which can warp full bodies so fast that it even fools top tiers. not only this, he even warped a bijuu lmao kakashi can warp himself anytime he wants to too

    kakashi is at least around itachis level, and will only get stronger

    gaara is weaker than the likes of onoki and the raikage.


    kakashi is much smarter than gaara.
    This.....
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Hafiz Dembos View Post
    Where was kakuzu's or pain's intelligence and experience when Naruto beat them?!
    Kakuzu was exhausted from his fight with Kakashi and Team Asuma and Pain had destroyed the village and was only at 1/2 his power.
    But Kakashi and Gaara would be a good fight.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    Kakuzu was exhausted from his fight with Kakashi and Team Asuma and Pain had destroyed the village and was only at 1/2 his power.
    But Kakashi and Gaara would be a good fight.
    Not a good explanation, there were no signs that kakuzu was tired besides being tired or at 1/2 power does not take away your intelligence or experience, does it?
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    Kakuzu was exhausted from his fight with Kakashi and Team Asuma and Pain had destroyed the village and was only at 1/2 his power.
    But Kakashi and Gaara would be a good fight.
    What does that have to do with anything?
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Kakashi's jutsu speed > Gaara's jutsu speed
    Kakashi is more analytic than Gaara, he will find Gaara's weakness even faster than Deidara
    Kakashi's water style > Gaara's sand
    Kakashi's lightning > Gaara's sand
    Kakashi's genjutsu could end the fight as well
    Kakashi's hiding mole technique could catch Gaara from underground
    Gaara won't be able to catch someone as fast as Kakashi if he can't even catch the Mizukage's clone in a desert
    Gaara could be caught by Kakashi's raiton kage bunshin

    If he flies, Kakashi can simply snipe him with Kamui
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Kakashi's jutsu speed > Gaara's jutsu speed
    Kakashi is more analytic than Gaara, he will find Gaara's weakness even faster than Deidara
    Kakashi's water style > Gaara's sand
    Kakashi's lightning > Gaara's sand
    Kakashi's genjutsu could end the fight as well
    Kakashi's hiding mole technique could catch Gaara from underground
    Gaara won't be able to catch someone as fast as Kakashi if he can't even catch the Mizukage's clone in a desert
    Gaara could be caught by Kakashi's raiton kage bunshin

    If he flies, Kakashi can simply snipe him with Kamui
    i would counter all your points but you left much too be desired without much proof to back up all u said.

    so i'd like to see reinforcements for those things like how kakashis jutsu speed is actually faster then Gaara's sand and how his lightning beats is or Gaara being caught by a bunshin or kamui or all that. then i'll take them on.

    & not related but what is Gaaras "weakness" that you say deidara found out? the fact hes kazekage and has to protect his village so to attack the village with a bomb the size of the village?lol
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by king gaara View Post
    so i'd like to see reinforcements for those things like how kakashis jutsu speed is actually faster then Gaara's sand
    Simply because he was able to compete even Itachi in a jutsu speed combining water wall, water clone, hiding under water all that in an instant, and even reacted to Itachi's explosiv clone when kurenai couldn't even follow:
    No one has shown to be faster than him in jutsu speed/handseals besides from Itachi. Sakura and Naruto even said it was too fast for them to follow and that they needed somehow to stop him using his hands to have a chance to get the bells.


    and how his lightning beats is
    Chidori was already able to break thru his ultimate defense(the same move he used against Deidara) and wound him pretty badly. Sand has already been proven to be weak against Chidori whether he is in his Shukaku form or when he uses all his sand to protect himself creating that ultimate defense, and Raikiri is even stronger than Chidori, so do the math
    or Gaara being caught by a bunshin or kamui or all that. then i'll take them on.
    Itachi is smarter than Gaara, has Sharingan to see handseals or chakra, and has also great insight in a fight, but even him was caught by Kakashi's clone in more than one occasion. Same goes for Pain(who even has the ultimate dojutsu Rinnengan). If even Itachi, or Pain were caught by Kakashi's clone, it's not Gaara who would be an exception.

    Kamui on the other hand has shown to be not predictable at all since even a self Kamui user like Tobi(with Sharingan and Rinnengan activated) didn't even noticed when Kakashi warped the clone, when he said before that he would pay attention on it.

    So good luck for Gaara who besides the fact has not shown something even closer to Obito's insight or reaction feats, even has no knowledge on the jutsu

    & not related but what is Gaaras "weakness" that you say deidara found out? the fact hes kazekage and has to protect his village so to attack the village with a bomb the size of the village?lol
    The weakness i was talking about is this. Gaara only has a limited amount of sand that stays in his gourd, and it's with that sand that he attacks and defend himself, his own sand being faster and stronger than the normal sand you see in the desert. He needs all his sand to create the ultimate defense. That's why when he uses it to attack, he can't defend himself completely with his own sand. If he attacks, it will create a hole in his defense like we can see here. So if you notice something like this, you can use Gaara's sand against himself for example by introducing small explosiv tags in it when he uses it to attack, so that at the moment he defends himself, he could receive the blast of it, exactly what Deidara did. But that's only one method of using Gaara's sand against himself since there are others
     
         
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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    What does that have to do with anything?
    That Naruto probably wouldn't have been able to beat them at 100%.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Gaara is a bad match up for Kakashi. Gaara's techs are on too huge a scale for Kakashi to counter.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    That Naruto probably wouldn't have been able to beat them at 100%.
    and how do we know this?!? Naruto has defeated many others with more experience than himself
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirigaya Kazuto View Post
    Gaara is a bad match up for Kakashi. Gaara's techs are on too huge a scale for Kakashi to counter.
    That is what people don't understand.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Gaara obviously wins,kamui isnt goin to save kakashi when he faces a sand tsunami which gaara can one panel easily.this isnt a contest gaara for sure. For those saying kakashi is faster than gaara, gaara's sand is much faster than kakashi,and lightening is no longer a problem,neither is water,so kakashi has nothing at all. Gaara mid diff
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by genii96 View Post
    Gaara obviously wins,kamui isnt goin to save kakashi when he faces a sand tsunami which gaara can one panel easily.this isnt a contest gaara for sure. For those saying kakashi is faster than gaara, gaara's sand is much faster than kakashi,and lightening is no longer a problem,neither is water,so kakashi has nothing at all. Gaara mid diff
    his fan-base cant accept this
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by genii96 View Post
    Gaara obviously wins,kamui isnt goin to save kakashi when he faces a sand tsunami which gaara can one panel easily.this isnt a contest gaara for sure. For those saying kakashi is faster than gaara, gaara's sand is much faster than kakashi,and lightening is no longer a problem,neither is water,so kakashi has nothing at all. Gaara mid diff
    Yes, his sand was extremely fast at the kage summit and now that oonoki has lightened it it is definitely faster than Kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Simply because he was able to compete even Itachi in a jutsu speed combining water wall, water clone, hiding under water all that in an instant, and even reacted to Itachi's explosiv clone when kurenai couldn't even follow:
    No one has shown to be faster than him in jutsu speed/handseals besides from Itachi. Sakura and Naruto even said it was too fast for them to follow and that they needed somehow to stop him using his hands to have a chance to get the bells.


    Chidori was already able to break thru his ultimate defense(the same move he used against Deidara) and wound him pretty badly. Sand has already been proven to be weak against Chidori whether he is in his Shukaku form or when he uses all his sand to protect himself creating that ultimate defense, and Raikiri is even stronger than Chidori, so do the math
    Itachi is smarter than Gaara, has Sharingan to see handseals or chakra, and has also great insight in a fight, but even him was caught by Kakashi's clone in more than one occasion. Same goes for Pain(who even has the ultimate dojutsu Rinnengan). If even Itachi, or Pain were caught by Kakashi's clone, it's not Gaara who would be an exception.

    Kamui on the other hand has shown to be not predictable at all since even a self Kamui user like Tobi(with Sharingan and Rinnengan activated) didn't even noticed when Kakashi warped the clone, when he said before that he would pay attention on it.

    So good luck for Gaara who besides the fact has not shown something even closer to Obito's insight or reaction feats, even has no knowledge on the jutsu


    The weakness i was talking about is this. Gaara only has a limited amount of sand that stays in his gourd, and it's with that sand that he attacks and defend himself, his own sand being faster and stronger than the normal sand you see in the desert. He needs all his sand to create the ultimate defense. That's why when he uses it to attack, he can't defend himself completely with his own sand. If he attacks, it will create a hole in his defense like we can see here. So if you notice something like this, you can use Gaara's sand against himself for example by introducing small explosiv tags in it when he uses it to attack, so that at the moment he defends himself, he could receive the blast of it, exactly what Deidara did. But that's only one method of using Gaara's sand against himself since there are others
    That's what any neutral person who read the manga and know how the ninja world works in narutoworld would say.

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    why r u guys talking bout only strengh strengh strengh. in other ways for eg.in experience,kakashi is greater,bt in looks gaara is way cooler,hotter n kawaiier!!
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    I think you're severely underestimating Kakashi's battle experience. He can quickly evaulate a situation and with his sharingan it raises that ability. Kakashi was at a Jounin level when he was at the age Naruto was when he was a Genin. (kakashi was around 13 during the episodes when it showed how he acquired his sharingan). I think that counts for a lot. He's one of Konoha's strongest ninja currently, and he certainly ranks high with strongest ninja of Konoha ever.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Kakashi can use hidden mist technique then use a clone as a decoy then go come up from underground and hit Gaara with a Raikiri.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    Kakashi can use hidden mist technique then use a clone as a decoy then go come up from underground and hit Gaara with a Raikiri.
    wow! Yeah this will bet Garra, who happens to be a Kage.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    wow! Yeah this will bet Garra, who happens to be a Kage.
    I gave an example of what Kakashi would use as when he fought Itachi(who is on kage level) he used hidden mist technique to mess up Itachi's vision and use a clone feint to attack him. Plus who apart from Gaara is kage level in the hidden sand village?
     
         
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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    I gave an example of what Kakashi would use as when he fought Itachi(who is on kage level) he used hidden mist technique to mess up Itachi's vision and use a clone feint to attack him.
    it's a nice little trick, but wouldn't fool anyone, especially one who has sand that could sense his presence.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Kamui can take out a whole Bijuu.

    Kakashi used it to teleport a transformed Bee.

    Gaara's sand shield is limited his actual sand only has enough to make that sphere around him.
    A Bijuu is way bigger than a tiny sand sphere.
    Meaning Kakashi can send Gaara and his shield right in to the next dimension.

    That's not a win though over time yeah because Gaara would obviously die of old age.
    However Gaara would be away from the ground and any extra sand meaning just his sand shield sand.
    Kakashi can warp in to the dimension, use the first gate, Raikiri through the sand shield and kill Gaara.

    Raikiri is a more powerful penetrating technique than Chidori, which could get through the sand.
    Raikiri would go through it like it was butter.

    Kakashi wins this.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Firstly I would be lying if I said gaara stomps but I think high difficuly for gaara since the radius of his sand is roughly a meter judging from the gaara rock lee fight however he can extend it; even if kakashi was to break through the sans its only his hand tjats lightning infused as for his arm well its stuck in the sand.

    Kamui poses the biggest thrreat of all since it can warp sizes of a tailed beast but in saying that coulkdnt gaara just put sand infront of the kamui?? If not the arial fighting is better for him, also having said tjat if kakashi warps something that big it exasts him to the point of collapse. Sand tsunami is huge and like some people said 'kamui' , He ca only use kamui so many times and people seem to forget minerals in the ground which he can make sand from so his supply is limitless
     
         

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