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    Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    As it was shown in the manga Sasuke's Teleportaion Jutsu paled to the Hiraishin no Jutsu used by the Yondaime Hokage Minato and Nidaime Hokage Tobirama.

    I had made a thread explaining it's inferiority to the Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Raijin Jutsu, the FTG regarding following,

    1. Speed.
    2. Range.
    3. Escapism.
    4. Other Variants.

    The Thread- Manga Proof: Why Sasuke's Teleportation is far inferior to the Hiraishin no Jutsu!!





    Now Let's look what today's chapter offered us, I'll show why it's inferior to Hiraishin!


    The Recharge of Hiraishin:

    As it's been established that the Hiraishin no Jutsu can be spammed to Death! There's no Rechage!!

    Minato soloed entire third world war thanks to Hiraishin and even in the Fourth War it was the Hiraishin that saved the entire Shinobi World from getting annihilated like 5-6 times


    The Recharge Sasuke's Teleportation:

    Sasuke's technique as it's been shown needs a "recharge"


    Sasuke needs to get his Left eye ready in order to make use of his Teleportation Jutsu!



    Why this matters?:

    Now having such a nerf i.e. having a recharge time means this technique can't be used consecutively or repeatedly which is a mighty flaw if compare it to and look at the workings of other Jikukan Ninjutsus such as Hiraishin or Kamui!

    And mid you by the looks of it this Recharge time is much longer than Pain's 5 second interval, and we've already seen how one could make use of such a flaw





    The Range of Hiraishin:

    As we've seen and known from the start that Hiraishin's range can be infinite. As long as there's a Hiraishin-marking to teleport Minato/Tobirama can teleport to it.



    Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!



    The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:

    As seen and with said conformation from Madara Sasuke can use his teleportation within a certain range



    If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use his foot-speed in order land an attack on Madara!



    But the fact remains that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.


    Why this matters?:

    As seen here Sasuke got transported to the desert


    There's no way for Sasuke to escape that desert, none at all. He can't go back to where Naruto is. He can get soloed by Black Zetsu anytime now since Naruto isn't there.

    The poor kid is going to have to face Kaguya and Black Zetsu on his own that to at half of his true power since other half is protecting Obito, Kakashi and a fodder!!

    Had it been Hiraishin user, he'd have teleported back to where Naruto was in an instant! Kaguya would've had no way of separating them! She'd be forced to take on the pair no matter what!!





    Escapism of Hiraishin:

    I'll leave you with some manga scans and a thread of mine on this topic for easy understanding.

    Thread- An overlooked aspect of Minato's Space-time Ninjutsu!










    As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!



    Escapism of Sasuke's Teleportation:

    Observe carefully,







    Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.



    Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!

    Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.


    Why this matters?:

    Had it been Hiraishin user here,


    He'd have teleprted away the moment Kaguya got a hold of him i.e. before Kaguya made the transport to the desert!






    Many have stated that Sasuke's technique is "better" than Hiraishin in battle whereas Hiraishin is better "overall." Now this is just me showing the reality as to how Sasuke's technique "failed" in battle where Hiraishin would've worked "perfectly."

    Hope you guys enjoyed
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    No.......Nagato solos them both...
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Quote Originally Posted by -Takasugi- View Post
    No.......Nagato solos them both...
    Nagato has nothing against any of the variations of Jikukan Ninjutsus
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Minato is way too slow, so no, he couldn't do a thing. Minato probably wouldn't even know anything at all as if kaguya stopped time
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    The fact will never change that Sasuke's technique let him troll Madara while Minato got his arm torn off and Tobirama got impaled by rods. It will never change the fact that Hiraishin requires two users to swap places while Sasuke could teleport others directly into his attacks. It will never change the fact that Hiraishin requires prep that significantly restricts the technique, and no amount of your fanfic will change the fact that it requires no prep and has no cooldown. Deal with it.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Well said minator, prepare for tons of fans in denial though.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    The 'recharge' was for Amaterasu I think.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Ftg is better indeed.

    But that recharge part was off for me
    But good thread.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    your just lame you create the same thread over & over when sasuke said he was ready he didnt even use his s/t tech he used amaterasu so no
    and if ftg is so great at escaping shit why didnt minato escape this



    or help naruto here



    if that was sasuke naruto would haved been saved



    if it wasit for tobirama minato and his ftg woulde been turn to edo paste
     
         
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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    I agree with his inability to escape. He should have escaped when Kaguya grabbed him with her hair; but he didn't. He should have escaped when Kaguya was taking his chakra with the black shit; but he didn't. He also should have escaped when Kaguya grabbed him from behind; but he didn't. Sasuke's technique is great and all, but feats-wise, it's not nearly as versatile as Kamui and FTG.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    It's funny because he used Amaterasu right after that and not the teleportation
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TrollKing View Post
    Minato is way too slow, so no, he couldn't do a thing. Minato probably wouldn't even know anything at all as if kaguya stopped time
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolatileSoul View Post
    The fact will never change that Sasuke's technique let him troll Madara while Minato got his arm torn off and Tobirama got impaled by rods. It will never change the fact that Hiraishin requires two users to swap places while Sasuke could teleport others directly into his attacks. It will never change the fact that Hiraishin requires prep that significantly restricts the technique, and no amount of your fanfic will change the fact that it requires no prep and has no cooldown. Deal with it.
    Ignorance is bliss

    Thread- Manga Proof: Why Hiraishin didn't work against Madara and Sasuke's tech worked!!
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Dam minator be always telling us the truth, God preach minator, that's my boi there! :P! +Rep + Thanked, keep them coming!
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    , why don't we use the translation that has time and time again, proven to be more consistent and superior to the shit MS translation?

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/682/5

    "My left eye is ready"

    Not to mention Amaterasu is used from Sasuke's left eye. Either way, Sasuke's jutsu needing a recharge time or a charge time is unsubstantiated by the manga.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aya San View Post
    It's funny because he used Amaterasu right after that and not the teleportation
    , exactly.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    I doubt anyone truly cares.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Great, who cares.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    I doubt anyone truly cares.
    Those who agree with this thread really care apparently
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Nothing less expected from Minator
    Did you post the link in our base?
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Daz View Post
    Well said minator, prepare for tons of fans in denial though.
    Thanks.

    Denial has started

    Quote Originally Posted by Sugiyama View Post
    The 'recharge' was for Amaterasu I think.
    Amaterasu needs no recharge

    Quote Originally Posted by uchiha clan ems View Post
    Ftg is better indeed.

    But that recharge part was off for me
    But good thread.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by unorthodox View Post
    your just lame you create the same thread over & over when sasuke said he was ready he didnt even use his s/t tech he used amaterasu so no
    1. Amaterasu needs no recharge.

    2. Sasuke has failed to use his tech consecutively

    3. Sasuke clearly required prep to use his tech

    4. Sasuke didn't use [rather couldn't] his tech in many scenarios because of the cool-down time

    ^^ All is in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Jorah Mormont View Post
    I agree with his inability to escape. He should have escaped when Kaguya grabbed him with her hair; but he didn't. He should have escaped when Kaguya was taking his chakra with the black shit; but he didn't. He also should have escaped when Kaguya grabbed him from behind; but he didn't. Sasuke's technique is great and all, but feats-wise, it's not nearly as versatile as Kamui and FTG.
    Exactly!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Aya San View Post
    It's funny because he used Amaterasu right after that and not the teleportation
    Read above
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

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    Nothing less expected from Minator
    Did you post the link in our base?
    50% tho, next week, we will see more confirmation about this hopefully
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    This is going to be a very nasty thread. But you are right...
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Actually, this wasn't so bad a read this time. There is your usual habit of selective reading that kept u from seeing that Sasuke was preparing his eye for Amaterasu not the teleportation and we already know that u have to build up chakra for Amaterasu.

    The range is definitely a problem and so is the fact that u can't escape while you r being contained and your chakra is being drained.

    From what we have seen Kaguya might have the same limitation for her doujutsu when she uses the technique, but it is most likely that Sasuke will awaken the same ability that Kaguya uses to move through dimensions, that is the only way I see Sasuke getting back. Kaguya is most likely gonna attack Naruto first because it seems that she has an special distaste from Naruto. Obito will probably help till Sasuke finds a way to get back.
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Shame . A teleportation jutsu that cannot escape when the enemy grabs you is just bad . Great thread .
     
         

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    Re: Chapter 682: Sasuke's Tech proved it's inferiority to Hiraishin even more!!

    Meh, i still dont think so.
     
         

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