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    Madara's double cross

    Well it's been awhile since I decided to make a theory post.

    It's a pretty quick and simple one. Does anyone else get the impression that Madara will double cross Obito? Perhaps infinite tsukuyomi isn't all that Madara made it out to be.

    What if it were to turn out that all Madara wanted was the power of the SO6P and in an attempt to gain it, he's manipulated everyone from the grave (including Obito) into helping him attain just that?

    So the question is... how likely is it that Madara is planning something completely different from what we've come to expect?
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    It wouldn't really surprise me - Madara seems like the "d*ck move" kinda guy.

    I had to laugh when Obito called him a child for just wanting to play with the Juubi though
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    i also think that :D
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    He might be planning something different, if it's something different, then imo it's either world destruction or world domination (which wouldn't change much)

    But I stay with the idea of infinite Tsukuyomi.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    It looked more like Obito was going to double cross Madara. He's getting tired of Madara just wanting to have fun and wants to get on with the plan.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by CasualMisfit View Post
    Well it's been awhile since I decided to make a theory post.

    It's a pretty quick and simple one. Does anyone else get the impression that Madara will double cross Obito? Perhaps infinite tsukuyomi isn't all that Madara made it out to be.

    What if it were to turn out that all Madara wanted was the power of the SO6P and in an attempt to gain it, he's manipulated everyone from the grave (including Obito)
    into helping him attain just that?

    So the question is... how likely is it that Madara is planning something completely different from what we've come to expect?
    madara wants to destroy & obito want to change the world already .... a pretty big hint on things to come maybe
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    nah... from the start obito is being used
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    It kinda looked like they're going to double cross eachother.

    Meaning Obito did want the Moon Eye Plan but his way and Madara lied about the Moon Eye Plan to Obtio because he wanted HIS own way.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
    It looked more like Obito was going to double cross Madara. He's getting tired of Madara just wanting to have fun and wants to get on with the plan.
    Hmm well it seems Obito just wants to get on with things, which is why Madara retorted with "A child is impatient"... I think Obito if anything is growing slightly concerned and may have suspicions himself. I mean given Madara's attitude I'd think that too! (Hence the making of this thread).

    You'd think with all the meticulous planning Madara has put into I-T, he'd just get on with it and not leave things to chance. He just doesn't seem committed to the plan right now! Something is up with that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    It kinda looked like they're going to double cross eachother.

    Meaning Obito did want the Moon Eye Plan but his way and Madara lied about the Moon Eye Plan to Obtio because he wanted HIS own way.
    Pretty much this yeah! I think they're about to have a big disagreement!
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    well it was the only way for the bad guys to lose, obito will seal madara and since they know how obito jutsu works they will then kill him and live happily ever after like some goddamn fairy tale.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Obito truly wants a world in peace "even if its fake" Madara most likely just want power to destroy it
    Just like previous villains who wanted a world without war everything pointing in the direction that Obito is gonna be talk no jutsud because he isnt really a bad person and like weve seen many times with Kishi those persons die while finding there own selves back
    Madara probably just used Obito and he will realise it in coming chapteres and be pissed
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by CasualMisfit View Post
    Pretty much this yeah! I think they're about to have a big disagreement!
    Indeed.
    To me it looks like Obito wanted the Moon Eye plan just to live happy with everyone, while Madara wanted it to have control and absolut power over everyone.

    A slight disagreement, lol.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Yea I too have had this feeling that Madara just wanted 10 tails for himself and made Obito and everyone else to work his plot into getting it
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    i can really see that happening. one thing i have leanerd about the uchiha's is that you can't never trust them. just look at sasuke he has betrayed everyone that has helped him including his teacher
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by CasualMisfit View Post
    Hmm well it seems Obito just wants to get on with things, which is why Madara retorted with "A child is impatient"... I think Obito if anything is growing slightly concerned and may have suspicions himself. I mean given Madara's attitude I'd think that too! (Hence the making of this thread).

    You'd think with all the meticulous planning Madara has put into I-T, he'd just get on with it and not leave things to chance. He just doesn't seem committed to the plan right now! Something is up with that!



    Pretty much this yeah! I think they're about to have a big disagreement!
    Hmmm ... yeah we shall see. To me it seems like Madara is saying "Yeah, we'll do Inf. Ts. eventually ... I just want to kill everything first"
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    the juubi will screw both them.

    Obito seems to be picking up on the fact that madara doesn't care about changing the world and more intrested in displaying power.

    Madara was always the man in charge, shame obito will most likely get killed by Madara in the end. You cant just go against some1 who is a edo tensei and both of the so6p bloodline limits and think ur gonna live to tell the tale.


    I think what might happen is that Obito will try to cancel the juubi summoning and madara would just kill him. That's basically it.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by psukkar View Post
    the juubi will screw both them.

    Obito seems to be picking up on the fact that madara doesn't care about changing the world and more intrested in displaying power.

    Madara was always the man in charge, shame obito will most likely get killed by Madara in the end. You cant just go against some1 who is a edo tensei and both of the so6p bloodline limits and think ur gonna live to tell the tale.


    I think what might happen is that Obito will try to cancel the juubi summoning and madara would just kill him. That's basically it.
    I would really like to see that, lol.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    as longest this doesn't turn in to everybody vs the biju .. good
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by -The Light- View Post
    i can really see that happening. one thing i have leanerd about the uchiha's is that you can't never trust them. just look at sasuke he has betrayed everyone that has helped him including his teacher
    If you're talking about oro. Then sasuke didn't betray him, Sasuke knew what orochimaru wanted all along. and that was sasuke's body. he hasnt really betrayed anyone actually.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by CasualMisfit View Post
    Pretty much this yeah! I think they're about to have a big disagreement!
    Yes, I really feel this coming
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by xSasuke View Post
    If you're talking about oro. Then sasuke didn't betray him, Sasuke knew what orochimaru wanted all along. and that was sasuke's body. he hasnt really betrayed anyone actually.
    You're missing the point, let's not turn this into a "Sasuke was justified" thread
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by xSasuke View Post
    If you're talking about oro. Then sasuke didn't betray him, Sasuke knew what orochimaru wanted all along. and that was sasuke's body. he hasnt really betrayed anyone actually.
    what are you talking about? he betrayed taka when he left them at the kage summit. He almost killed karin. he left konoha to fallow darkness instead of staying and getting help from his friends.
    sorry casualmisfit for going off topic
     
         

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    he is the boss of cause
     
         

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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by -The Light- View Post
    i can really see that happening. one thing i have leanerd about the uchiha's is that you can't never trust them. just look at sasuke he has betrayed everyone that has helped him including his teacher
    This is very true... the Uchiha are all very double sided. Itachi who let himself be seen as a villain turns out to be "good"! Sasuke manipulates and uses people to get what he wants. Obito let everyone believe he was dead then made everyone think he was Madara... They are all very self serving people. Let's see what Madara's true intentions are to prove the pattern Uchiha personalities tend to display!

    Quote Originally Posted by psukkar View Post
    the juubi will screw both them.

    Obito seems to be picking up on the fact that madara doesn't care about changing the world and more intrested in displaying power.

    Madara was always the man in charge, shame obito will most likely get killed by Madara in the end. You cant just go against some1 who is a edo tensei and both of the so6p bloodline limits and think ur gonna live to tell the tale.


    I think what might happen is that Obito will try to cancel the juubi summoning and madara would just kill him. That's basically it.
    Yup I have a feeling Obito will really do something to force Madara's hand against him... he'll probably end up dying in Kakashi's arms and have a last moment of remorse and sorrow!

    Quote Originally Posted by xSasuke View Post
    If you're talking about oro. Then sasuke didn't betray him, Sasuke knew what orochimaru wanted all along. and that was sasuke's body. he hasnt really betrayed anyone actually.
    Oh he did betray Orochimaru... he told Orochimaru and Naruto... "I don't care what Orochimaru does with me as long as it kills Itachi" when infact he had no intentions of letting Orochimaru control him!

    Quote Originally Posted by -The Light- View Post
    what are you talking about? he betrayed taka when he left them at the kage summit. He almost killed karin. he left konoha to fallow darkness instead of staying and getting help from his friends.
    sorry casualmisfit for going off topic
    Hey no worries... that's how conversations roll!

    For the record... I agree! Sasuke has no loyalties other than to himself!
     
         
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    Re: Madara's double cross

    Quote Originally Posted by CasualMisfit View Post
    Yup I have a feeling Obito will really do something to force Madara's hand against him... he'll probably end up dying in Kakashi's arms and have a last moment of remorse and sorrow!
    That's how I see it as well.
    I always said that the most probable to die in this war, since people were concerned about this, was Obito.
    I mean, let's face it, do you see Obito alive and living in Konoha happily ever after?
    Do you see any other Uchiha behind Sasuke being alive?
    Generally speaking.
     
         

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