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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    And he didnt know where the real rinnegan Nagato was from
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Oro doesn't need Hashirama DNA to gain the rinnegan. He is already a Uzimaki/Senju, he just wants the Sharingan so he can develop the rinnegan on his own. Plus if he got Sasuke's body, he would just inject his own cells in that body and unlock the rinnegan
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Legacy View Post
    This is true, the Sharingan will copy almost any technique, and the Rinnegan will give access to any level of element or even any combination, including yin-yang release.
    But u need both senju & uchiha blood w/ rinnegan to use wat u listed up there
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadai View Post
    Perhaps Orochimaru thought to himself that Nagato would be to difficult so he would settle with Itachi's Sharingan and then strengthen it into a Rinnegan via hashirama DNA.
    YEP^ and oro obviously has senju DNA. he gave some to danzo and used it for edo tensei to summon hashirama. honestly maybe he was using gonna use sasuke to get his sharingan so he could kill itachi and get itachi's sharingan. who knows
     
         
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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Reason is simple. Take a look at Madara. He 4 sets of eyes, in his two eyes. (Normal eyes, 3 tomme, EMS, and Rinnigan) Now, look at Nagato. He has 1 set of eyes. the Rinnigan.
    If you acheive Rinnigan through mastery of the sharingan you are able to switch back and forth. If you are given Rinnigan, you can only ever use that. So, since Orochimaru is obsessed with jutsu and wants to be able to use eveything, he needs a sharingan. (probally just one so he can have a 3 tomme, EMS, and Rinnigan) and he would also have the byakugan. If he just chooses the Rinnigan, he is in effect, shutting himself out of a whole new relm of dojutsu abilities~ that is: the sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    simply he thought pein was much to powerful to attack, and thought that he could get itachi by surprise...simply though he wantes a madara type rinnengan(sharingan and rinnengan transition) so he can use rinnegan techs and nature, but use sharingan copying techs....his goal is to learn all jutsu, and that is much tougher with a rinnegan than a sharingan....but easier if you have both

    simply he wants both rinnegan and sharingan
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by JIRAIYA perv View Post
    not even close, no need to debate about something the manga made clear, nagato is the strongest akatsuki member. period
    really cuz when obito and madara fought side by side it said the strongest are here.
    stop your quailing and wank somewhere else becuz itachi himself totsyuka nagato,
    by himself.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Whatever the reason is, Oro is hiding something huge. He knows something others dont. I believe this is somehow connected to what Sasuke and Oro is up to in the manga now. Oro is gonna reveal his biggets secrets and change this war by showing us the true power of the Sage of the Six Paths i believe.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Oro's goal is to learn every jutsu on earth. He needs the Rinnegan for that. He could not possibly take on a Rinnegan user, so he was planning to get an uchiha body with a sharingan, and upgrade it to a Rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    He knew that Nagato would destroy him.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Probably he knew that sharingan has its special power and then evolves in the Rinnegan so that's why he was first keen on Itachi's sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikud0 Sennin View Post
    Reason is simple. Take a look at Madara. He 4 sets of eyes, in his two eyes. (Normal eyes, 3 tomme, EMS, and Rinnigan) Now, look at Nagato. He has 1 set of eyes. the Rinnigan.
    If you acheive Rinnigan through mastery of the sharingan you are able to switch back and forth. If you are given Rinnigan, you can only ever use that. So, since Orochimaru is obsessed with jutsu and wants to be able to use eveything, he needs a sharingan. (probally just one so he can have a 3 tomme, EMS, and Rinnigan) and he would also have the byakugan. If he just chooses the Rinnigan, he is in effect, shutting himself out of a whole new relm of dojutsu abilities~ that is: the sharingan.
    Well this is the theory that makes most sense so far.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    I think he wanted itachi sharingan to develop it and prove his theory was correct "what happens when you progress beyond the sharingan"
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    There are more abilities to be gained starting from the Sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    I don't think that Orochimaru is suicidal.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    I think Oro preferred a the sharigan because he had seen it's potential a lot more in itachi's training than he saw nagato perform any sort of jutsu when he was in akaktuski. Oro knew about stuff like izaragi and other optial jutsus of the uchiha, jutsus you can't perform with a rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Orochimaru wanted the Rikudō's power, the power Madara achieved, and for that he needed an Uchiha body. Nagato was given Madara's eyes, but could never seem to access half of their power: Susano'o, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, genjutsu, copying, etc. Orochimaru wanted the real deal, not a transplant.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    oro doesn't need body without legs.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by 6 paths View Post
    He attacked Itachi when he was just around 12 years old. There's no way he could have taken on an adult Nagato, he'd have been crushed in no time
    I dont know about Itachi being 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by JIRAIYA perv View Post
    i think oro is deeply involved in all this somehow (meaning that he knows of madara and obito's plan so that means that he also know's nagato well) nagato was not an option for oro since he was involved in the eye moon plan
    Well, he said he knew of the plan. Also, Oro wanted an Uchiha body. The sharingan are a plus. Also, I will repeat what another member said: Do you think he has the balls to fight Nagato?
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Orochimaru never saw the rinnegan on Nagato.. It was covered by his hair....Yes he most likely wanted rinnegan..
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Orochimaru never saw the rinnegan on Nagato.. It was covered by his hair....Yes he most likely wanted rinnegan..
    And he couldn't see them on the Deva Path?
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercles View Post
    And he couldn't see them on the Deva Path?
    The scene op linked in his post , I don't believe that ever happened in the manga, I believe that scene was filler, i'll go recheck ,

    There really is no reason to believe he ever even met deva in person... In part 1 akatsuki was not making any moves , almost at all... they met a few times in holographic form and that was it
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    The scene op linked in his post , I don't believe that ever happened in the manga, I believe that scene was filler, i'll go recheck ,

    There really is no reason to believe he ever even met deva in person... In part 1 akatsuki was not making any moves , almost at all... they met a few times in holographic form and that was it
    Wouldn't the anime be just as much cannon as the manga?
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercles View Post
    Wouldn't the anime be just as much cannon as the manga?

    Nah, the anime puts in things to fill in time to make episodes, alot of which are inconsistent with what was stated in the manga... one eg is Sasuke in the anime telling naruto he can tell which one of his shadow clones are real.. despite that being exactly opposite to what we know...

    Only manga and databooks are actually cannon, and well any interviews with kishi himself
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru and Nagato's Rinnegan - Did anyone notice?

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverYoung View Post
    He had the balls to attack Itachi 1on1 even after knowing that Itachi had slaughtered the entire Uchiha clan by himself.
    He was scared of Itachi, when Itachi joined the Akatsuki..... Everyone called "Nagato" Pein. So I don't think he even knew about his identity. Hell, even Jiraya didn't. Also, we are talking about the leader of the Akatsuki.. you know the one that kept everyone straight on their lines.

    Quote Originally Posted by FTG V2 View Post
    It's not that Oro doesn't have the balls to attack Nagato, but rather Oro knows Nagato can't use the full power of the Rinnegan.
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    Nagato can't use the full power??

    Quote Originally Posted by repulse View Post
    It has to do with the progression of the Sharingan into the Rinnegan. Nagato can only use Rinnegan techs, unlike Madara who can use his Sharingan, EMS, and Rinnegan techs due to unlocking each level of the Sharingan. Also, take into consideration that with the Sharingan Orochimaru can successfully most jutsus he comes across, and be able to perform them. The Rinnegan cannot do so.
    Problem..we have seen from the greatest uchiha to live... that it takes basically a person's whole life to unlock the Rinnegan through Natural process. Madara is only OP with that rinnegan because he is a EDO. Him doing those moves while being alive, would take alot of chakra. The Rinnegan doesn't need to copy..... Only thing that Sharingan has on rinnegan is the power of Perfect Susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    Nah, the anime puts in things to fill in time to make episodes, alot of which are inconsistent with what was stated in the manga... one eg is Sasuke in the anime telling naruto he can tell which one of his shadow clones are real.. despite that being exactly opposite to what we know...

    Only manga and databooks are actually cannon, and well any interviews with kishi himself
    I hop you know, those "things" to fill in the time, are approved by the original creator himself. And if you only wanna focus on stuff that Kishimoto himself has done.. and noone else..Then the manga you read online is also not canon. Due to editors making changes and helping Kishimoto. Anime will not counter it self.. You people just need to wait.... And I'm pretty sure alot of people have said that about Shadow clones of Naruto...
     
         
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