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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    I actually find it funny that despite every power up he geabs the next person he fights ends up wiping the floor with him, until he gets help and pulls a last minute sharingan tech! He deffinatly trained for the power....that was the whole point of him going off with Orochimaru in the first place
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Sorry, am joining late but whats this about sasuke working hard? Seriously, again with this, where is the training for an already gifted ninja. N what basis are you going to consider when comparing a ninja who can dodge and copy jutsus? If you hope to be fair to the young uchiha, compare him to his fellow uchiha (base your facts upon their achievements and not their assumptions). But this is what i know;
    -He couldn't kill Oro for good and didn't play an active part in kabuto's defeat, he was very passive.
    -He could not defeat itachi fairly after several years of training with Oro, what a waste of Oro's time.
    -He could not awake EMS by himself. He can't even kill one friend.
    -He relied on Oro's powers for so many of his battles, itachi, deidara and naruto.
    -He relied on taka to fight killer bee and still lost, killer bee took him to school on this one
    -He went way over his head with the five kages and almost get shared.
    -He defeated a hateful old ignorant half experiment of a man and now he is being praised by everyone.
    -He has put to his limit by garaa and required naruto to rescue him whenthey were kids.
    Am sorry but i can't access sasuke's abilities with other uchihas because its pointless, he couldn't come close to his fellow uchihas.
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Not as hard as Lee and Naruto :D
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOfficialSabuto View Post
    I agree to a certain extent.
    Before he obtained the Mangekyo, Sasuke had trained alot to enhance his Chidori techniques and learn quite a bit from Orochimaru.

    However, Sasuke quite simply obtained the Mangekyo, Susano'o/Amaterasu and the EMS without any significant training to acquire them. In the meantime, Naruto was busy training to learn Rasenshuriken, Sage Mode, and Bijuu Mode, so it's easy to see why people would say 'Sasuke has not worked hard to become stronger'.
    well when sasuke got MS sasuke's training was actual combat all those fights he was in was a mean to stimulate sasuke and his power which is better than training
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOfficialSabuto View Post
    I agree to a certain extent.
    Before he obtained the Mangekyo, Sasuke had trained alot to enhance his Chidori techniques and learn quite a bit from Orochimaru.

    However, Sasuke quite simply obtained the Mangekyo, Susano'o/Amaterasu and the EMS without any significant training to acquire them. In the meantime, Naruto was busy training to learn Rasenshuriken, Sage Mode, and Bijuu Mode, so it's easy to see why people would say 'Sasuke has not worked hard to become stronger'.
    To obtain Sharingan enhancements an Uchiha is trained mentally.... killing someone close to them and taking the eye of someone close to them...I am not using this as an example to say he trains to obtain those things but this is how you obtain these things. It is not actually possible to train and gain Mangekyou or Eternal Mangekyou. Sasuke on the other hand did use his fights to practice his techniques. This is how he learns. He learns during the heat of the battle. Simply, obtaining a New Sharingan does not ensure that your are on an entirely different level. Kishi provided the perfect example for the readers using Sasuke vs Killer B as an example. Sasuke knew nothing about the Mangekyou Techniques and truly was embarrased during that battle. Kishi used this battle as a message that obtaining a new power does not mean you know how to use it to it's best. Those who dislike Sasuke ignore this message and use this fight to discredit his abilities and they continue to say he does not work for his power. Sasuke first obtaining Mangekyou did not posses Amaterasu or Susanoo as soon as he gained the Mangekyou Sharingan. We would never say Sasuke possesing the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan is on equal grounds as Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan Madara. To be successful with a technique you need practice.
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    The sharingan is Sasuke's power, why isn't he allowed to use it? Using Amaterasu, Susano'o, Tsukuyomi, ordinary genjutsu, copying techniques, predicting movement and jutsu, all those are possible because of his kekkei genkai: sharingan. I don't see a problem why people complain him using something that's his power, especially against the 5 Kage where he had no choice but to use Susano'o and Amaterasu. The powers of the mangekyou come because of the desire for power over losing the person closest to you. I don't think Itachi really meant the Uchiha clan wanted to kill their loved ones simply to obtain power because if that was the case, why are there Uchiha still? No one seems to want to kill any of their loved ones. Because of the emotional trauma it causes losing the person closest to you, it gives birth to great power to protect others so that you don't lose anyone else, at least that's how the Rikudou Sennin would've wanted it. It's only strange that EMS is only acquired through taking someone else's eyes, which itself is a selfish act in a sense, unless people can acquire even eyes that have lost their light and still EMS. I don't know. Or maybe blindness is caused by the over use of that great power, more like the blindness isn't something that happens automatically, but is caused by the abuse of your power, who knows? It's still interesting to think about.
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Holy text blobs & haters & fanboys....

    I read this thread because of the pathetic "deal with it" in the title.

    Sasuke is over powered as fk.. This guy has EMS .. Enough said lol Madara is madara which is why him having EMS is perfectly acceptable. Sasuke was strong enough just with MS + lightning release.

    Now you add on infinite blaze release + susano.

    The point is Sasuke got these gifts from Itachi. Only thing IMO he trained for was his hawk summoning, speed and Kirin. He was literally given EMS from itachi . Amaterasu, Susano'o, blaze release all from itachi... What would sasuke be without itachi? ... A shinobi no better than Kakashi (not saying Kakashi is weak at all)

    Also im not saying what if.. Im proving the point Sasuke did not work for his powers.
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Full agreed with this thread•
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    i agree with you 100 percent.naruto was giving alot more than sasuke was
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLove View Post
    Holy text blobs & haters & fanboys....

    I read this thread because of the pathetic "deal with it" in the title.

    Sasuke is over powered as fk.. This guy has EMS .. Enough said lol Madara is madara which is why him having EMS is perfectly acceptable. Sasuke was strong enough just with MS + lightning release.

    Now you add on infinite blaze release + susano.

    The point is Sasuke got these gifts from Itachi. Only thing IMO he trained for was his hawk summoning, speed and Kirin. He was literally given EMS from itachi . Amaterasu, Susano'o, blaze release all from itachi... What would sasuke be without itachi? ... A shinobi no better than Kakashi (not saying Kakashi is weak at all)

    Also im not saying what if.. Im proving the point Sasuke did not work for his powers.
    everything sasuke got was through trauma and training the only thing he got from Itachi was a 1shot ama for tobi which gave him a MS of Itachi's blaze release Itachi didn't have only sasuke susano'o even Itachi was surprised sasuke had awakened it and EMS someone going blind anyone would take it and in any case Itachi knew sasuke would take his eyes because he knew sasuke would eventually go blind
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    having a tail beast put inside you is more OP than being an uchiha

    ALL the tailed beast hosts are formidable ninjas. all the uchihas were decent ninja, but only a few really stood out
     
         

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    Re: Deal with it, Sasuke worked hard to be a strong shinobi as well (FACT )/ PrOof

    Well he worked hard all that time but he still dont get what he had to get all that time long about frends about wilage about clan that stuf.
     
         

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