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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    I think people misinterpreted the title of thread, I was sarcastically saying who isn't a genius dice so many characters have been called a genius in their own right. Also, I wanted to point of that rarely (if ever) has anyone been called a genius based of their intelligence, mostly regarding their feats. Therefore, I wanted to point out how it's pointless to throw out there who's been called a genius in the series as it pretty doesn't relate to how we interpret it in our threads.

    Hope this cleared things up....-_- lol
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Sakura.

    The reason I believe this is the lack of personal growth. Still struggling with the same demons from her past. Sure she has medical support techniques but she cannot grow out of her shell and become something more. While everyone else is moving on she squats on the past.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrthnwind View Post
    Well you have three categories:

    1)Those who are mentally gifted - these peoeple excel when it comes to cognitive ability like strategical/tactical planning along with knowledge in general

    2)Those who are physically gifted - these people excel when it comes to physical strength, and stamina

    3)and those who are both - these people tend to grasp things both physically and mentally much quicker than most and are able to utilize it in combat with great efficiency, though sometimes not as much as one who excels in one category.

    Examples of people gifted in each category:

    Physically: Naruto, Lee, Gai, Jiraiya, Nagato, Kisame

    Mentally: Sakura, Shino, Tsunade, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Sasori, Shikamaru, Shikaku

    Both: Minato, Itachi, Sasuke, Neji, Kakashi, Hiruzen, Madara
    Shouldn't Tsunade also be in the both category since she is physically strong and has good stamina as well. Yet you put people like Kakashi, Itachi, Hiruzen who don't have that great of a stamina. Your list is kind of messed up. Also how is Nagato a physical genius when he is crippled? Where would you put the Sand Siblings? You should also place Kiba in the physical section as he is a genius when it comes to fang over fang and animal instincts. One last thing, Neji only has average intelligence, from data book not my personal opinion:P.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by leggomynecro View Post
    Sakura.

    The reason I believe this is the lack of personal growth. Still struggling with the same demons from her past. Sure she has medical support techniques but she cannot grow out of her shell and become something more. While everyone else is moving on she squats on the past.
    Well he was credited for being one of the top students in part one, which they advised her to consider genjutsu (I sure this wasn't my own personal dream).
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Icelerate View Post
    Shouldn't Tsunade also be in the both category since she is physically strong and has good stamina as well. Yet you put people like Kakashi, Itachi, Hiruzen who don't have that great of a stamina. Your list is kind of messed up. Also how is Nagato a physical genius when he is crippled? Where would you put the Sand Siblings? You should also place Kiba in the physical section as he is a genius when it comes to fang over fang and animal instincts. One last thing, Neji only has average intelligence, from data book not my personal opinion:P.
    you got it all wrong. tsunade I can change to both, but the others would stay the same.

    The physical area include those who are proficient in combat, which includes Itachi, Kakashi, and hiruzen are. Nagato happens to have tons of stamina, plus he had to work at those techniques originally in order to become proficient with them.

    Temari - both. She is considered to be very smart and analytical while also being able to wield her large fan and fight against fairly strong opponents

    Kankuro - mental. Because he relies on puppets, his physical ability leaves much to be desired, but he makes up for it by devising very clever plan to fool his opponent and using hidden traps to catch them off guard

    Gaara - mental. While he does have lots of stamina, he doesn't use it to physically attack his opponents, relying more on the use of his sand to both attack, defend, and even maneuver him around the battlefield.

    Kiba, while good in combat, is more of a sensor and relies more on his sensory ability combined with collaboration techniques with akamaru to be successful in combat.

    Just because someone has "average" intellect doesn't mean that he isn't a genius. Actually, Neji is a very fast learner, able to recreate the main family's most powerful jutsus from observation alone. He is also very analytical, using his byakugan to the fullest to help him keep an eye on his opponent at all times while being able to come up with plans to counter his opponents abilities like he did with kidomaru and Kisame. He is very proficient in the gentle fist at a young as due to his natural talent, making him a taijutsu virtuoso and formidable in CQC.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Hidan-sama!!
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Naruto kun.. he is no 1 in the list..

    i know he has been so powerfull lately but, i still say he is not genius...

    Why?

    come on guys, i think deep down all of u agreed..

    ok, let me explain..

    eventhough now he has the most powerful form.. He still cannot use it optimumly .. he still fight like he did when he was in the ninja academy.. with brute and force..

    Lets put his place with any characters ( chioji, shikamru, ino or anyone) . Did they perform like Naruto . I bet not..
    others were able to perform in optimum even they only posses weak jutsu or tech.. and if they where switch with Naruto place right now i think that They can perform better..

    we can see awesome things done using KM, BM, SM mode..
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hidden Shinobi View Post
    You forget there are two kinds of elite, the hard-working types and the natural born geniuses.

    Natural born: Sasuke, Minato, Itachi, Minato, Kakashi, neji

    Hard working: Naruto, Lee, obito, nagato without the rinnegan he would be nothing plus it was not naturally his he had to suffer and work to become that good with it
    and minato was born with rasengan? Or was kakashi born with sharingan please these two worked hard... Sasuke, itachi, neji and hinata are idiots who born in comfort zone but stupidly let others surpassed them...
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Hidan
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    hidan is a stupid homeboy !
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Hinata... she is an idiot
    and Hidans also not one of the genius ones
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    You piece of sh.it...naruto ain't no idiot.....he is infact a genius for creating rasenshuriken(His hardwork evolved the rasengan to another
    crazy lvl)..
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    *sigh....You are infact an idiot...There's a difference between being an idiot and being shy...shhhhhh....gtfo
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    i'm pretty sure Choji will be called a genius for having butterfly mode w/o taking any pills -_-
    omg lol
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Hahahahaha!!!! I bet when Naruto's older, and he's the hokage, everybody is going to be llike: "He was a genius." "He mastered the rasengan." "He defeated Pein." "He saved the village." "He rescued Sasuke (maybe)" "He stopped the juubi." "He defeated madara (hopefully, not likely)" "He won the girl (lol! Interpret this anyway you like)"
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoSageUzumaki View Post
    With that info he was able to Work out how to beat the Raikage

    What does this Phraze "they both fell flat with their jutsu's still active" mean to you ?

    So by that Bee actually meant _ go into Sage mode , Use Rasengan and try to make the 3rd Pierce Himself ? Right ? oh ur THAT Insightful ?

    Kakashi was the Reason ?

    Kakashi was long dead - Naruto Defeated the Animal path by restricting their eyesight .

    he Worked out that the eyes were connected so that was how he beat the Naraka Path

    Pain was not able to use his abilities for 5 minutes of the fight

    then he started to Spam Shinra tensei - Kurama saved him , but it is like Saying - Susanoo Saved Madara ......

    Naruto needed that power to defeat pain , No one cept maybe for obito was On par with Pain at that moment


    Created with help ? from whom ? his sensei ?

    No duh ? - what did kakashi do ? Show off how he can also use Rasengan ? He Created it through Hard work

    it is not me whos feelings are hurt .

    it is you who is hurt by facts , and tries to Crop out- the info that you need out of the general picture
    lol
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    EVERYONE is a genious, but if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree, it will live it's whole life believing it is stupid.
    LAWYERED!
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Whilst i agree that the term genius has been brandished by either teacher's who hail their 'prized' student or those who knew a character i believe you underestimate lee or do not understand what kakashi means.

    Every character is a genius in their own right, yes even A. The ability to use raiton armour is something that takes quiet abit of skill/intelligence.

    Anyway what kakashi was basically saying is that the ability to open the 8 gates is something that not many ninja's can achieve (including him, he was only able to achieve the first gate) and lee at such a young age can open 5.

    There are many forms of genius, btw. Tbh the term genius in the series is too vague.
    People like shikamaru/sakura are geniuses when it comes to class room exam's, etc. However people like sasuke who is also bright when it comes to class room exam's isnt as bright as shika/sakura however his genius lies in his talent for anything combat related
     
         
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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    naruto isnt really that smart he is just really powerful
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    we missing out shikimaru...his clan deserve to be the greatest of geniuses
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by itachifan7 View Post
    naruto isnt really that smart he is just really powerful
    in life he isnt , in battle he can bring out an ace from a stack of queens
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    There are many forms of genius, btw. Tbh the term genius in the series is too vague.
    People like shikamaru/sakura are geniuses when it comes to class room exam's, etc. However people like sasuke who is also bright when it comes to class room exam's isnt as bright as shika/sakura however his genius lies in his talent for anything combat related
    This is true with Sakura but Shikamaru isn't a classroom exam genius. When it comes to school studies his grades were very low just like Naruto's. He is a master tactician who knows how to analyse and make plans accordingly though. Sakura is very smart in school studies and her skill at analysing her opponent is underrated but she is still a bit below people like Kakashi, Shikamaru and Itachi at that. Sasuke apparently got the highest marks in his class but that is due to his all round prowess. The data book gives Sasuke lower scores in intelligence compared to a lot of other ninjas his age so even though he is intelligent, most of his genius comes from his mastery of ninjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Icelerate View Post
    This is true with Sakura but Shikamaru isn't a classroom exam genius. When it comes to school studies his grades were very low just like Naruto's. He is a master tactician who knows how to analyse and make plans accordingly though. Sakura is very smart in school studies and her skill at analysing her opponent is underrated but she is still a bit below people like Kakashi, Shikamaru and Itachi at that. Sasuke apparently got the highest marks in his class but that is due to his all round prowess. The data book gives Sasuke lower scores in intelligence compared to a lot of other ninjas his age so even though he is intelligent, most of his genius comes from his mastery of ninjutsu.
    Asuma said that he got low scores because he was too lazy to even move his pencil not because he wasn't book smart.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    And if you paid attention.... they are referred to geniuses in a specific category.

    Lee: Taijutsu.... and who would not agree???

    Sasuke: Learns fast.

    Naruto: never was called a genius.... But he still is one.

    Itachi: a prodigy

    Kakashi: learned fast

    Minato: Smart ass

    Sarutobi: his feats speak for itself

    Hashirama: The ultimate shinobi

    Madara: The strongest Uchiha.

    Obito: learned shit fast.




    Most of the ones i mentioned weren't called geniuses.... But no not everyone is a genius in the manga..
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    And if you paid attention.... they are referred to geniuses in a specific category.

    Lee: Taijutsu.... and who would not agree???

    Sasuke: Learns fast.

    Naruto: never was called a genius.... But he still is one.

    Itachi: a prodigy

    Kakashi: learned fast

    Minato: Smart ass

    Sarutobi: his feats speak for itself

    Hashirama: The ultimate shinobi

    Madara: The strongest Uchiha.

    Obito: learned shit fast.



    Most of the ones i mentioned weren't called geniuses.... But no not everyone is a genius in the manga..
    Omg did you read what I said?! I was pointing out that many shinobi have been pointed out as being a genius, but for different reasons. Therefore, when comparing true intelligence it's basically pointless, as most shinobi are geniuses in their own right.
     
         

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