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    Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Ok.. Im back on this.... I say this because once again.. Scorch and Blast are SO restricted but... all those bios kill scorch and blast TOGETHER... ANYDAY! even if its Blorch Release.

    1st Hokage: Why in the bloody blue hell is the 1st hokage not a battle test? Like... This dude is getting more op and more op as each manga episode comes out.. You will more than likley see every person on NP rping as the 1st hokage sooner or later

    2nd Hokage: Why isnt he a battle test... like he was said to have space time AND edo.... EDO... Yea Im confused.. and I know people will say we havent seen him use space time.. but it was said he can.. so technically you can submit customs for him space/time wise

    Itachi: Personally this isnt a big deal but i feel it should. We never seen itachi with 1 tomoe so in my eyes he never had it. He just skipped it like Obito... and not giving him atleast 3 tomoe off the back plus all the moves he can do is a bit underkill.... I think itachi should have a battle test...

    Deidara: A suicide person. who can kill with just one jutsu.... He is too op to NOT be a battle test.....

    Tsunade: She can pratically turn immortal and with one punch half of ur body is gone... and she isnt a battle? :confused:


    I know Im missing more.. But yea... those are the ones I can think of off the back

    I want some answers...
     
         
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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    I have always liked your ideas brother teno, but there is a first time for everything ,and i must say i disagree with all your ideas and suggestion regarding the battle test rules,sorry. There are already restriction for this biographies,in my opinion a biography test is not needed.A reputation For the idea though,making the effort to help naruto base is what counts.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by General Teno View Post
    Ok.. Im back on this.... I say this because once again.. Scorch and Blast are SO restricted but... all those bios kill scorch and blast TOGETHER... ANYDAY! even if its Blorch Release.

    1st Hokage: Why in the bloody blue hell is the 1st hokage not a battle test? Like... This dude is getting more op and more op as each manga episode comes out.. You will more than likley see every person on NP rping as the 1st hokage sooner or later

    2nd Hokage: Why isnt he a battle test... like he was said to have space time AND edo.... EDO... Yea Im confused.. and I know people will say we havent seen him use space time.. but it was said he can.. so technically you can submit customs for him space/time wise

    Itachi: Personally this isnt a big deal but i feel it should. We never seen itachi with 1 tomoe so in my eyes he never had it. He just skipped it like Obito... and not giving him atleast 3 tomoe off the back plus all the moves he can do is a bit underkill.... I think itachi should have a battle test...

    Deidara: A suicide person. who can kill with just one jutsu.... He is too op to NOT be a battle test.....

    Tsunade: She can pratically turn immortal and with one punch half of ur body is gone... and she isnt a battle? :confused:


    I know Im missing more.. But yea... those are the ones I can think of off the back

    I want some answers...
    1 st hokage: it depends on how you use teh wood release i know of a bunch of jutsu to reply to that wood dragon that are canon same goes with his flower jutsu,

    second hokage: we ahven't seen it so it doesn't count

    itachi: the only test he needs is ms test tahts why he's not restcied ( plus uchiha ARE restcied already bet you obito gets teh same deal for his sharingan no ms unless you pass teh test)

    tsuande: for like 3 moves >_>plus can't revive or heal whats been complely anilated ( detsroy her whole body in one go)
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    plus to many bio tests as it is >_> mei doesn't really need one, big deal to kg just say when you make the bio you have to choose one of them not both its that simple but no she needs a test >_O
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    OMG!!!! Haku.. I was thinking the same thing.. I do NOT think mei need a battle test. Cause technically you can say Dodai got 2 kg.(though he dont) He has rubber AND lava... she has lava AND mist.. which mist is SO counterable

    and there is alot of canon jutsus to counter the 1st hokage jutsus but still
     
         
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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    To adress the ones mentioned ill say my opinon on your suggestion

    Hashimara:Up till now I havent seen a real reason to make him a bio test in my eyes.He is already restricted to mastery of Water and Earth and he doesnt have all that oped stuff you claim as Yamato bios can do all that stuff,as well as Danzo and Obito(yet to be implemented i guess)

    Tobirama:First of we dont even know what space time ninjutsu he uses and just cause he can do Edo Tensai one needs Nexus's permission to have it on there bios which im sure later would require Kinjutsu Training.

    Itachi:Smh dude he aint worthy for bio testing except for his MS which is avabliable so why would they make us test for his bio then still test for MS might as well put it all in one bio test with his MS included

    Diedara:T_T man he falls under Blast Release Restrictions which he uses,all he does is variat by infusing them with Clay.

    Tsunade:Hahaha wont go there.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    No battle tests if the current bios are getting done due to the increasing number of RolePlayers now to add even more bio and popular ones as a matter of fact like itachi hashi fanboys will swarm the battle test threads.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Every bio is op. It just depends on how you use it.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Well you guys are right about yamato.. I feel maybe a heavier restriction for wood users.....

    1st Hokage
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    Obito
    Madara
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    6 Wood users.....
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by General Teno View Post
    Ok.. Im back on this.... I say this because once again.. Scorch and Blast are SO restricted but... all those bios kill scorch and blast TOGETHER... ANYDAY! even if its Blorch Release.

    1st Hokage: Why in the bloody blue hell is the 1st hokage not a battle test? Like... This dude is getting more op and more op as each manga episode comes out.. You will more than likley see every person on NP rping as the 1st hokage sooner or later

    2nd Hokage: Why isnt he a battle test... like he was said to have space time AND edo.... EDO... Yea Im confused.. and I know people will say we havent seen him use space time.. but it was said he can.. so technically you can submit customs for him space/time wise

    Itachi: Personally this isnt a big deal but i feel it should. We never seen itachi with 1 tomoe so in my eyes he never had it. He just skipped it like Obito... and not giving him atleast 3 tomoe off the back plus all the moves he can do is a bit underkill.... I think itachi should have a battle test...

    Deidara: A suicide person. who can kill with just one jutsu.... He is too op to NOT be a battle test.....

    Tsunade: She can pratically turn immortal and with one punch half of ur body is gone... and she isnt a battle? :confused:


    I know Im missing more.. But yea... those are the ones I can think of off the back

    I want some answers...
    1st Hokage: True, it was shown that he's incredibly strong in the manga/anime. Hell, the wood element can block Bijuu attacks and suppress the bijuu. I think he should be restricted a bit more, perhaps, but battle test would probably be going too far.

    2nd Hokage: In the anime/manga, he's skilled but on here, he's a fodder ninja. Anyone that has permission can learn Edo so that's no big deal. The Space/time thing...it was said that he can use it, but to what extent? He can't use it like Minato, with the kunai. He can't use it like Obito/Kakashi with his Sharingan so we have no idea what his limits are with Space/Time, thus why it's not included for him in the RP so I see no reason for a battle test.

    Itachi: Obito was shown unlocking his sharingan, starting at 2 tomoe. I doubt Itachi gained his Sharingan and it was already at the 3 tomoe stage. The only reason Sasuke started with one tomoe was due to introductory/ explanatory reasons in the manga, to further explain what each level could do. If we restrict Itachi to a battle test, then the same should be did with Sasuke and Kakashi, who only become OPed with their MS, which is already almost unobtainable so it's really no point.

    Tsunade: Yeah, I'm gonna leave that where it's at.

    Deidara: I can blow myself up with one technique. Hell, I can literally blow the earth up with one technique. Should I be a battle test character? @_@
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Also ,i would like to applaud scorps and other role play moderator and staff members and members who helped to contribute to the elemental weaknes and strenghts,that reduces the the strenght of every element and makes thing,s even.

    Wood is weak to lightning

    Water to fire

    Taijutsu -3t

    Blast-Lightning

    These element alone are enough to nullify these characters kg and element.

    So i don't really think this is needed.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    Also ,i would like to applaud scorps and other role play moderator and staff members and members who helped to contribute to the elemental weaknes and strenghts,that reduces the the strenght of every element and makes thing,s even.

    Wood is weak to lightning

    Water to fire

    Taijutsu -3t

    Blast-Lightning

    These element alone are enough to nullify these characters kg and element.

    So i don't really think this is needed.
    Yeah, I disagree. My tai ain't weak to no damn sharingan. >_>'
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Kaos View Post
    1st Hokage: True, it was shown that he's incredibly strong in the manga/anime. Hell, the wood element can block Bijuu attacks and suppress the bijuu. I think he should be restricted a bit more, perhaps, but battle test would probably be going too far.

    2nd Hokage: In the anime/manga, he's skilled but on here, he's a fodder ninja. Anyone that has permission can learn Edo so that's no big deal. The Space/time thing...it was said that he can use it, but to what extent? He can't use it like Minato, with the kunai. He can't use it like Obito/Kakashi with his Sharingan so we have no idea what his limits are with Space/Time, thus why it's not included for him in the RP so I see no reason for a battle test.

    Itachi: Obito was shown unlocking his sharingan, starting at 2 tomoe. I doubt Itachi gained his Sharingan and it was already at the 3 tomoe stage. The only reason Sasuke started with one tomoe was due to introductory/ explanatory reasons in the manga, to further explain what each level could do. If we restrict Itachi to a battle test, then the same should be did with Sasuke and Kakashi, who only become OPed with their MS, which is already almost unobtainable so it's really no point.

    Tsunade: Yeah, I'm gonna leave that where it's at.

    Deidara: I can blow myself up with one technique. Hell, I can literally blow the earth up with one technique. Should I be a battle test character? @_@
    Yeah but i still do not see a reason to restcit wood anymore i mean its simple use lighting to break it
     
         

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    Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @lok
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Kaos View Post
    Yeah, I disagree. My tai ain't weak to no damn sharingan. >_>'
    Not weak per say,but can track the movement or at least try to keep up with a taijutsu specialist.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by -Haku Yuki- View Post
    Yeah but i still do not see a reason to restcit wood anymore i mean its simple use lighting to break it
    If that's the case, then just use water to combat the MS and Amaterasu. It ain't as easy as you make it to be. When you can make a ****ing forest without being in contact with the earth and then clap and make it explode, we got a real problem on our hands.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Kaos View Post
    If that's the case, then just use water to combat the MS and Amaterasu. It ain't as easy as you make it to be. When you can make a ****ing forest without being in contact with the earth and then clap and make it explode, we got a real problem on our hands.
    The opponent can fly and go above ground, all jutsu can be countered or must have a weakness.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    The opponent can fly and go above ground, all jutsu can be countered or must have a weakness.
    Yeah, sorry but Itachi's logic doesn't imply to our RP. Going above ground with a wood jutsu that created a city sized forest is created doesn't really help, nor does flying (even more so at the fact that no one can fly except mu and onoki, both restricted to battle tests...). Not all jutsu can be countered easily by the basic ninja. The point being, the weaknesses of some elements are not as effective as the weaknesses of others. It might be counterable, but not very effectively with cannons. But that's another topic for another thread.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Agrees with LOK.
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    Agrees with LOK.
    *gets more support than Teno in his thread*

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    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! @LOK!. Get outta here man! LMAO!!!!
    I have to say I agree with you too... Atleast restrict Wood more...
    Cause Until madara is dead.. we wont be seeing nothing less but OP SHISH from him
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Another thing...Yamato can't use Wood on the same level as Hashirama, it's been said more than once so I was wondering..where in our RP do we draw the line? I've seen Yamato bios do some pretty nice shit that they probably shouldn't have been able to do. I think a distinction should be made, even if it's one attack. (Sorry SY bro xD)
     
         

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    Re: Battle Test For the 1st, 2nd hokage +More

    Quote Originally Posted by General Teno View Post
    We never seen itachi with 1 tomoe so in my eyes he never had it. He just skipped it like Obito... and not giving him atleast 3 tomoe off the back plus all the moves he can do is a bit underkill.... I think itachi should have a battle test...
    .

    Itachi as a bio with the 3T isn't OP. Him with the Mangekyo Sharingan is... so I disagree with you. There should simply be a test for the Mangekyo.

    Good day.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Teno View Post
    Ok.. Im back on this.... I say this because once again.. Scorch and Blast are SO restricted but... all those bios kill scorch and blast TOGETHER... ANYDAY! even if its Blorch Release.

    1st Hokage: Why in the bloody blue hell is the 1st hokage not a battle test? Like... This dude is getting more op and more op as each manga episode comes out.. You will more than likley see every person on NP rping as the 1st hokage sooner or later

    2nd Hokage: Why isnt he a battle test... like he was said to have space time AND edo.... EDO... Yea Im confused.. and I know people will say we havent seen him use space time.. but it was said he can.. so technically you can submit customs for him space/time wise

    Itachi: Personally this isnt a big deal but i feel it should. We never seen itachi with 1 tomoe so in my eyes he never had it. He just skipped it like Obito... and not giving him atleast 3 tomoe off the back plus all the moves he can do is a bit underkill.... I think itachi should have a battle test...

    Deidara: A suicide person. who can kill with just one jutsu.... He is too op to NOT be a battle test.....

    Tsunade: She can pratically turn immortal and with one punch half of ur body is gone... and she isnt a battle? :confused:


    I know Im missing more.. But yea... those are the ones I can think of off the back

    I want some answers...
    Unnecessary suggestion.

    Wood bios aren't Oped in general. Hashirama was powerful in the manga but that doesn't translate into the RP directly. The main thing that made him powerful was his ability to heal himself auto and that is, in our RP, very well restricted. You need to either get special training in the med school with Nexus or finish the med school to get access to that ability...and then you have it in any other bio you possess. Med school is in iself a more than enough restriction to an ability. As for Chakra Enhanced Strength, its a good, useful, powerful ability but nothing unreasonable and even Sakura bios have it. Then you have wood. Like someone pointed, Weak to Lightning. Nothing much there. Its much more powerful in the manga because of scale and because ninjas in the manga don't have 5 elements and CEs and mastery over 500 techniques like a ninja has in our RP. So it doesn't make sense to have a battle test for Hashirama. Perhaps a bio rule explaining his abilities might be added but I honestly don't see even a need for that.

    Tobirama's only special ability that comes auto with him is the use of water techniques with only one handseal and no need for a water source. Edo Tensei requires mastery over Kinjutsu, something gained only through special permission and only once you have both time in our RP as well as mastery over other fields such as Fuuinjutsu and all other ninjutsu, tai, gen, etc. Its not something you gain auto with the bio. S/T in Tobiramas are nothing more than a reference. We don't know what technique it entailed and what he was capable of doing and as such he has no access to those abilities in our RP and unless Kishimoto actually explains what they were, he will probably not have them.

    Itachi is just a ridiculous notion. Hes a normal Sharingan bio in our RP and his most noticeable ability (MS) requires senseiship, permission and a difficult battle test/tournament prize. So that notion is simply ridiculous.

    Deidara has enough restrictions for a bio that, again, is powerful in the manga but not so much here in the RP. Lightning exists and every bio in the RP knowns it if it wants so no need to actually overestrict something just because one is unable to compreehend the difference between the manga and the adapation we do on some abilities in our RP and the context of them in it.

    Tsunade has a very heavy restriction. You need mastery over Ninjutsu. That alone makes it quite restrict. Not only that but her speed is nothing that big and even if immortal, she's only immortal for a limited number of turns after which she actually loses the fight. So her abilities aren't oped in any way. She's vulnerable to speed and distance and time (as long as you wait, her abilities fade) and Genjutsu. So again, useless suggestion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Kaos View Post
    Another thing...Yamato can't use Wood on the same level as Hashirama, it's been said more than once so I was wondering..where in our RP do we draw the line? I've seen Yamato bios do some pretty nice shit that they probably shouldn't have been able to do. I think a distinction should be made, even if it's one attack. (Sorry SY bro xD)
    Only difference between Yamato and Hashirama in our RP is the use of Flowering related techniques (cannon and CJs). Much like Rubber is restricted to Dodai, even if he can use normal lava, Flowers and specific flora production is restricted to HAshirama and Madara bios. Yamato is left with normal wood and trees. doesn+t mean this won't change. And in our RP, because Yamato was even more popular than Hashirama, it was deemed it would be fair to treat them as much as equals as possible.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
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    Itachi as a bio with the 3T isn't OP. Him with the Mangekyo Sharingan is... so I disagree with you. There should simply be a test for the Mangekyo.

    Good day.
    and there is... permission + restrictions to get permission + a test...

    Nexus permission + Sensei status (Senior I think) and then a battle test in which you have to kill what ever opponent you get put up against.
     
         

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