Page 1 of 2 12 Last»
Results 1 to 25 of 34
  1. #1
    Nukenin antonie15's Avatar
    Status
    antonie15 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Brasov - Romania
    Posts
    370
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Hi guys i found a interesting story of a excellent predictor who says minato was the son of tsunade with all predictions lets enjoy this


    It is pretty apparent from the hints in the manga that Tsunade and Dan are Minato's mother/father. The reason i think this is true is because there are just so many hints shown in the manga and Data-book thats its almost undeniable. So i'll try and keep this short and post them in a list
    1-Tsunade and Minato have the same exact blood type(B).

    2-Dan and Minato graduated the Academy at the Same time(When they were 10) *not literally the SAME year

    3-Tsunade and Minato Share the Same Hair Color(Blond)

    4-Minato and Dan are around the same height and weight as each other(they are only different by a 3-4 in both categories)

    5-Naruto and Nawaki(tsunade's brother) look nearly identical. Shows possibly a family resemblance

    6-Its interesting that naruto always calls Tsunade Grandma Tsunade, which would be very ironic on kishi's part if it was true

    Now that the basic comparisons are over here's the real big evidance

    5-Madara suggest that the Hokage line has been kept in the Senju clan for years. When he talks about this their is a picture of the hokage mountain and it shows the fourth hokage's head on it. This implies that the Hokage position was still held by the Senju even during the fourth Hokage's time, which inturn implies that the fourth hokage is a Senju.

    Where else would he get the blood from the Senju clan then Tsunade.

    6-Tsunade passes down the hokage necklace to naruto which was set to stay in Tsunade's family and passed down in their family since the first hokage. Since there is a big deal made out of the necklace i think this implies that Naruto might be in Tsunade's family.

    7-Yamato remarks about naruto's Chakra being special because he is able to hold off the power of the 4-tails w/o dieing. This might be because naruto is related to the Senju clan and thus his chakra has the same qualities as Shodai which helps to protect him from the kyuubi chakra

    8-There is a great amount of symbolism between Shodai-Naruto and Sasuke-Madara. They stood on that statues of each other at the valley of the end(Naruto on Shodai's and Sasuke on Madara's). Many people thought this implied that Shodai is like naruto and sasuke is like Madara. But Sasuke is actually and Uchiha so i don't see why this wouldn't also imply that naruto is a Senju.

    9-And i think this is the biggest telling piece of information eventhough some people might read the dialog differently then i did. Now remember the chapter where Jiriaya tells Tsunade that he is going to Ame to look for AL and they have Sake. Well when their discussion turns to minato alot of things bother me about the way Jiriaya talks to Tsunade.

    First look at Tsunade's face when she says Minato-Namikaze on page 10 chapter 367 she seems very sad about saying his name. Now this can be explained away by her just having been friends with him or something and being sad thinking about how he died, but it creates a very wierd mood for what happens next. First Jiriaya goes on to brag about Minato and what he was like and his amazing Genius.

    Which let me say its weird that Jiriaya even brought up Minato at this point in the conversation because previously they were talking about how Tsunade has lost so many people in the past and about how she rejected Jiriaya's advances. Then Jiriaya seems to imply that he thought of Minato as a son and brags about him to which he says that if Minato had been his son he would have bragged about him constantly.

    But what makes this suspect to me is he says i never had any kids of my own while looking at Tsunade and then says if Minato had been my kid...etc.. Doesn't this sound like what some one would say to a mother who lost their child...just replace minato with your son and doesn't the whole dialog seem right.

    For example i will redo the dialog this way

    "Tsunade you son had talent only seen once in a decade at best. He was a genius...No one like him has been born in awhile." "He was such a nice kid yet his guts and desire to succeed were the fiercest i have ever seen." "and in the blink of an eye he was our fourth hokage." "I never had kids so i don't know what its like, but if he had been my son i would have bragged about him all the time."

    Now i want you to think about what kind of character Jiriaya is. He's the guy who failed all his life at love and he failed to Dan. Now think about it if Jiriaya had succeeded with Tsunade he would have been Minato's father instead of Dan. Its basically like Jiriaya is saying he always thought of Minato as his son because he could have very well been his father if it wasn't for a simple twist of fate. Basically that whole converstation made me think that Jiriaya was talking about Minato as if he was Tsunade's son and if you read the flow of that conversation from its start to finish with the idea that Minato is Tsunade's son alot of Jiriaya's jokes and ways that he talks makes alot of sense.

    So whats my theory on how Minato is Tsunade's son. I think that Tsunade got pregnant by Dan a little bit before he went off on the mission that killed him. She also was doing missions because she didn't know that she herself was pregnant yet. After Dan Died she found that she was pregnant with his child which caused her to go even more into the depression that led her to leave the village. I think after Dan died she stayed in the village long enough to give birth to Minato and then she put him up for adoption and left the village.

    Years later Jiriaya trained Minato because he loved Tsunade so much. Basically Jiriaya felt like Minato could have been his kid and he wanted to be a father to Tsunade's kid becuase of his love for her. So he trained Minato and they did gain a father son bond which later resulted in Jiriaya ironically becoming naruto's God Father. Tsunade probably never told Minato that he was her kid, but all the elders of Konoha knew because they knew she put him up for adoption as a baby, which made Minato a member of the Senju clan which helped increase his chances of becoming hokage.

    The genius of kishimoto can truly be seen if this theory is true. For many reasons:

    1-It will be important in naruto becoming a full pledge ninja because he might develop some of Shodai's power to allow him to control the demon fox or it might help explain why he is able to finally control the demon fox with his own chakra. It would also build up the tension between Sasuke and Naruto if naruto was a true Senju clan member.
    2-It fit perfectly with the irony of Jiriaya's story/character. Jiriaya failed in love eventhough and Dan won out. Jiriaya could have been Minato's father, but he ended up becoming Minato's Sensei and Foster father figure anyway. Eventhough he failed in love with Tsunade he was still able to become part of Minato's family and even became naruto's God father.
    3-It would fit perfectly with Tsunade's dynamic with naruto and her troubled past storyline. It would also be amazing if naruto did find out Tsunade was his grandmother right before she died. Also Tsunade would then be in a position to be the one to reveal naruto's entire lineage to him. It would also make sense why she was so willing to bet the necklace with naruto because he is part of the Senju clan as well.
     
         

  2. #2
    Senior Member Kagutsuchi's Avatar
    Status
    Kagutsuchi is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Why Do You ask, Stalker ?
    Posts
    17,466
    Post Thanks / Like
    Hiding in shadows.
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    might be true
     
         

  3. #3
    what a feelin' Naruto's Avatar
    Status
    Naruto is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    your heartbeat
    Posts
    516
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Interesting, I have no way to disprove this either. All that I can say is that most of it is speculation.
     
         

  4. #4
    ~emperor~ +luffy+'s Avatar
    Status
    +luffy+ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Dubai
    Posts
    10,315
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    interesting theory

    and u r right about the necklace part....
    shizune said "anyone else that has the necklace,that person will die"
    no one can wear that necklace, except senju's. so naruto maybe tsunade's grandson...who knows!!!
     
         

  5. #5
    Feeling little Dizzy. Orion's Avatar
    Status
    Orion is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    on the celestial equator.....
    Posts
    1,832
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    this theory word-to-word is already been posted long ago...
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...er-father.html...
    Anyways nice find...This one gave much needed change from danzo-ish theories...
     
         

  6. #6
    Member Kisuke Kakashi's Avatar
    Status
    Kisuke Kakashi is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    270
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Apart from points 8 and 9, the whole theory holds very little worth.

    You're making an assumption, based on such ridiculous, and irrelevant connections, that it's almost laughable.

    Blood type and graduation age?
    ...are you actually viewing them as valid points?
    Seriously.
     
         

  7. #7
    Senior Member mohsin's Avatar
    Status
    mohsin is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    1,653
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    m interesting..
     
         

  8. #8
    uchiha forever peaceful's Avatar
    Status
    peaceful is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Together with Itachi drinking some beers
    Posts
    1,042
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    No this theory is shit. I have already proved it wrong in Ban_kais thread. No need to continue discussing...
     
         

  9. #9
    Senior Member BAN_KAI's Avatar
    Status
    BAN_KAI is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Behind the Seal tormenting he Kjubi
    Posts
    5,466
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
    No this theory is shit. I have already proved it wrong in Ban_kais thread. No need to continue discussing...
    hahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahha :D
     
         

  10. #10
    Xylon's Avatar
    Status
    Xylon is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    19,750
    Post Thanks / Like
    saraisthebest! #henrikisevil
    #minaisawesome
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    dude this theory was written by some1 else u stole it
    and btw its months old o_O
     
         

  11. #11
    Nukenin antonie15's Avatar
    Status
    antonie15 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Brasov - Romania
    Posts
    370
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Sage View Post
    dude this theory was written by some1 else u stole it
    and btw its months old o_O
    like i said
    Hi guys i found a interesting story of a excellent predictor who says minato was the son of tsunade with all predictions lets enjoy this
    and i didn't knew it was already posted here,i found it on mangahelpers :l
     
         

  12. #12
    to be love, to be love Realtwisted's Avatar
    Status
    Realtwisted is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    NEW JERSEY
    Posts
    606
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    you stole, omg how could you.
     
         

  13. #13
    Master of Rain/Cloud ~Kensei-kun~'s Avatar
    Status
    ~Kensei-kun~ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    no where to be found
    Posts
    10,504
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    you maybe on to something

    interesting theory
     
         

  14. #14
    The Rubber Guardian of NB Ace's Avatar
    Status
    Ace is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    A Rubber Mansion
    Posts
    10,115
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    It makes perfect sense to me. ^_^ Kudos to u
     
         

  15. #15
    Trust in me. Crutch Kaguya's Avatar
    Status
    Crutch Kaguya is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    13,784
    Post Thanks / Like
    He is the Crutch, his works
    are perfect, and all his ways
    are just.
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    One of the best theory I have heard, awesome
     
         

  16. #16
    uchiha forever peaceful's Avatar
    Status
    peaceful is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Together with Itachi drinking some beers
    Posts
    1,042
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Cant anyoen use his mind anymore?:Minato was AB- then you might have some form of arguement in there even then you can have the same blood type and not be related to the person.
    Its like saying Obama and I have the exact same blood type so I must be related to the President of the United States.

    The necklace has nothing to do with Naruto being able to withstand Kyuubi's chakra which would kill an ordinary person. The necklace is a useless trinket by itself. How ever Yamato can make use of the necklace to boost his ability to supress Kyuubi.

    Tsunade never married, her first boyfriend died horribly after she gave him the necklace, then her younger brother also died when she gave him the necklace.

    Tobi and Madara did not have the exact same hair cut oh wait they are the same person.....
    (Madara had long hair, tobi had short hair.)

    Pretty much your arguement is about as accurate as Sasuke having Senju blood running thru his veins. Oh wait its entirely possible that he might.....
     
         

  17. #17
    Senior Member SSJ3Gotenks's Avatar
    Status
    SSJ3Gotenks is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Denton, TX
    Posts
    1,208
    Post Thanks / Like
    SSJ God
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
    Cant anyoen use his mind anymore?:Minato was AB- then you might have some form of arguement in there even then you can have the same blood type and not be related to the person.
    Its like saying Obama and I have the exact same blood type so I must be related to the President of the United States.

    The necklace has nothing to do with Naruto being able to withstand Kyuubi's chakra which would kill an ordinary person. The necklace is a useless trinket by itself. How ever Yamato can make use of the necklace to boost his ability to supress Kyuubi.

    Tsunade never married, her first boyfriend died horribly after she gave him the necklace, then her younger brother also died when she gave him the necklace.

    Tobi and Madara did not have the exact same hair cut oh wait they are the same person.....
    (Madara had long hair, tobi had short hair.)

    Pretty much your arguement is about as accurate as Sasuke having Senju blood running thru his veins. Oh wait its entirely possible that he might.....

    Look we all know this has been posted before but atleast it is abetter theory than Tobianzou. Alot of this amkes sense no i am not sure that naruto is Tsunade's grandson thet haven't really said alot about naruto's past we just found out right before Jiraiya died that Minato was naruto's father. Naruto having just recently found out himself. So don't go flaming people especially when your supposed best theory which is most assuredly wrong is DAnzou=Tobi/Madara.
     
         

  18. #18
    raiton master Revan's Avatar
    Status
    Revan is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    under the evening sky
    Posts
    2,087
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    nice theory, but i dont remember the talk between j-man and tsunade (which is your best argument), could you tell me which anime-episode or manga-chapter it was?

    btw.: of course its just speculation and no real proof, but it's the best theory about naruto being a senju that i have heard so far.
     
         

  19. #19
    Izumō's Avatar
    Status
    Izumō is online now
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Crazy Fool that Gang Bang, EST 19XX and Stay Lace Up
    Posts
    18,927
    Post Thanks / Like
    #BlackFlag #MachineGunKelly
    #Dub-O #Slim #LaceUp #EST19XX
     



    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    this is a great theory

    the thread everyone been talking about u stole is n the predition area
     
         

  20. #20
    sasori of the red sand sasori420's Avatar
    Status
    sasori420 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    sand village
    Posts
    387
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Its funny as soon as a saw the thread title i thought this would be BS but you prooved me wrong
    Im really impressed, like i cannot come up with any legitimate argumate
    Nice Job
     
         

  21. #21
    uchiha forever peaceful's Avatar
    Status
    peaceful is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Together with Itachi drinking some beers
    Posts
    1,042
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ3Gotenks View Post
    Look we all know this has been posted before but atleast it is abetter theory than Tobianzou. Alot of this amkes sense no i am not sure that naruto is Tsunade's grandson thet haven't really said alot about naruto's past we just found out right before Jiraiya died that Minato was naruto's father. Naruto having just recently found out himself. So don't go flaming people especially when your supposed best theory which is most assuredly wrong is DAnzou=Tobi/Madara.
    Can you prove the Danzo/madara wrong? No. I can thoufh this theory.
    Quote Originally Posted by sasori420 View Post
    Its funny as soon as a saw the thread title i thought this would be BS but you prooved me wrong
    Im really impressed, like i cannot come up with any legitimate argumate
    Nice Job
    Why? You dissapoint me..





    it is not possible for Minato to be Dan and Tsunade Child. I will cover this again Minato was trained by Jiraiya before dan died or at the very most around the same time frame.

    Dan was 27 when he died, and was roughly the same age as the Sannin. That would put his death roughly 23 years before the series started. Given that Minato graduated the academy at 10, which would be putting him graduating the academy at 13 years before the series started.

    Kakashi was 26 at the series starts and became a Jounin at 13. So Kakashi became a Jounin 13 years before the series start. Now how could Minato be becoming a Genin at the same time that Kakashi was becoming a Jounin. Naruto would also be born only a year later which would mean Minato would be fathering Naruto while he was around 11 years old

    If you want to look at it from another angle Fugaku Uchiha is from the same generation as Minato. Fugaku died at 40, which puts him around 32 at the time of Minato death. This gives a rough age on how old Minato was when he died. Since Minato was around 32 and Graduated the academy at 10 this would put him training with Jiraiya at around 22 years before the series starts. Which Put him in charge of Team Minato around the same time it has been shown that other Jounin have teams. Even if you give it play room of it being approximate it doesn't sync with the timeframe of Tsunade and Dans relationship.

    I won't deny the possiblity of Naruto and Minato being of Senju descent (though I still doubt even that), Put they are not directly related to Tsunade.


    Proves this argument wrong!
     
         

  22. #22
    Banned
    Status
    Omoilol is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    260
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    What i really want to know is ... how do you tell the blood type of paper drawn figures?
     
         

  23. #23
    uchiha forever peaceful's Avatar
    Status
    peaceful is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Together with Itachi drinking some beers
    Posts
    1,042
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omoilol View Post
    What i really want to know is ... how do you tell the blood type of paper drawn figures?
    -facepalm- databook...
     
         

  24. #24
    sasori of the red sand sasori420's Avatar
    Status
    sasori420 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    sand village
    Posts
    387
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
    Can you prove the Danzo/madara wrong? No. I can thoufh this theory.


    Why? You dissapoint me..





    it is not possible for Minato to be Dan and Tsunade Child. I will cover this again Minato was trained by Jiraiya before dan died or at the very most around the same time frame.

    Dan was 27 when he died, and was roughly the same age as the Sannin. That would put his death roughly 23 years before the series started. Given that Minato graduated the academy at 10, which would be putting him graduating the academy at 13 years before the series started.

    Kakashi was 26 at the series starts and became a Jounin at 13. So Kakashi became a Jounin 13 years before the series start. Now how could Minato be becoming a Genin at the same time that Kakashi was becoming a Jounin. Naruto would also be born only a year later which would mean Minato would be fathering Naruto while he was around 11 years old

    If you want to look at it from another angle Fugaku Uchiha is from the same generation as Minato. Fugaku died at 40, which puts him around 32 at the time of Minato death. This gives a rough age on how old Minato was when he died. Since Minato was around 32 and Graduated the academy at 10 this would put him training with Jiraiya at around 22 years before the series starts. Which Put him in charge of Team Minato around the same time it has been shown that other Jounin have teams. Even if you give it play room of it being approximate it doesn't sync with the timeframe of Tsunade and Dans relationship.

    I won't deny the possiblity of Naruto and Minato being of Senju descent (though I still doubt even that), Put they are not directly related to Tsunade.


    Proves this argument wrong!
    haha well that shut me up, another argument i wont argue with,
     
         

  25. #25
    Toad Sage Koo's Avatar
    Status
    Koo is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    818
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: [Theory] Are Tsunade & Dan Minato's mother and father?

    Quote Originally Posted by the1stemperor View Post
    interesting theory

    and u r right about the necklace part....
    shizune said "anyone else that has the necklace,that person will die"
    no one can wear that necklace, except senju's. so naruto maybe tsunade's grandson...who knows!!!
    wasnt tsunade's brother a senju.... roflmao
     
         

Page 1 of 2 12 Last»

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •