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    Itachi is Susano'o

    An observation I made.



    Masashi Kishimoto's character Itachi Uchiha, is designed after the Shinto god Susano’o with a few alterations to the story. Much like the legend, Itachi is shown to have a multi-layered personality, but also holds a compassionate and generous as a main.

    "According to the ancient religion of Shinto, Susano-O no Mikoto, the Brave-Swift-Impetuous-Male, is the god of the storms and of the sea. He is a Kami with a highly volatile temper, who is very often impulsive, but yet he also has a kind and generous side.

    In the religion of Shinto, Kami may have multifaceted personalities. Susano-O is a prime example. The Kami's four spirits or "tama" cause him to behave in many different ways."

    https://www.uwec.edu/philrel/shimbutsudo/susano-o.html



    Susano’o was birth from his father Izanagi, washing his nose to rid himself of the impurities of the Yomi, the underworld. Susano’o is the brother of Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, and is the god of sea and storms. Moreover; Susano’o possessed the Totsuka no Tsurugi, which was a sword his father used to kill his newborn son Kagutsuchi, for burning his mother, Izanami to death. Soon Susano’o was banished from his realm for going against his duties, for wanting to see his mother.

    "During the birthing of Kagu-Tsuchi-no-Kami, the fire god, Izanami was so badly burned that she took sick and eventually stopped moving. This was the first instance of death in the history of the universe. Izanagi was devastated by the tragic loss and exclaimed, "Oh! Thine Augustness my lovely younger sister! Oh! That I should have exchanged thee for this single child!" (Kojiki 33). With that he crept around her inert body, to her head resting against her august pillow, and to her feet, crying and weeping uncontrollably. The Crying-Weeping-Female Deity arose out of his tears. After this, he took his beloved Izanami and buried her. According to the Kojiki account, her grave was located on a mountain named Hiba, which lay at the boundary of the Land of Izumo and the Land of Hahaki (identity unknown). The Nihongi, however, identifies her final resting place as the village of Arima in Kumano (Kojiki 33; Nihongi 21).

    Following this tragedy, Izanagi was in utter despair at the loss of his beloved wife and sister. Drawing his saber sword, named Heavenly or Majestic Point-Blade-Extended, he cut the head off of his child, Kagu-Tsuchi. From the blood that was clinging to the sword were born numerous deities associated with mountains, rocks, sharp snapping noises, and fire (Kojiki 35-7; Nihongi 23). Perhaps volcanoes, of which there are many in Japan, are intended.

    Izanagi was desperate to find Izanami so he followed her into the land of Yomi-no-kuni, the region of death in the underworld. This is the world of ghosts, restless spirits, pollution, and darkness (Ono 102). Izanagi was desperate for Izanami's return and frantically searched for her. When he finally came across her in Yomi, he greeted her with excitement, saying, "Thine Augustness my lovely younger sister! The lands that I and thou made are not yet finished making; so come back" (Kojiki 38)."

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    "According to the main text of Nihongi, the "three noble children" Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo were also produced at this time, but Kojiki and an "alternate writing" quoted in Nihongi state that the three were produced in a different way. According to these two records, Izanami died as the result of giving birth to the kami of fire, whereupon Izanagi followed his dead wife to the land of Yomi and disobeyed her taboo (see kinki) not to look upon her. Fleeing from the pollution of death, Izanagi then performed lustration (see misogi) which resulted in the birth of the three noble children.

    In contrast to Izanami as "earth mother," Izanagi is thought to have characteristics of a "heavenly father." According to Kojiki, Izanagi "hid away" (i.e., died) in Taga of Ōmi, while Nihongi states that he died either in the province of Awaji or Hi no Wakamiya."

    [Original Source]



    Susano’o was then exile once more for his inexorable aggravation to his sister Amaterasu.

    "He next visited his sister Amaterasu in the Plain of High Heaven (Takamanohara), but he was suspected of insurrection and underwent a trial by pledge (ukei). Declaring himself the winner in the trial, Susanoo ran amok and caused Amaterasu to hide herself away in the heavenly cave, for which offense Susanoo was again banished."

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    "Susano-O decided that before he left on his journey to the underworld, he wanted to wish his sister Amaterasu farewell. However, his coming shook the ground and made so much noise that Amaterasu thought that danger was coming to her and she began preparing for it. When she saw that it was her brother that had caused all the commotion, she asked him for a sign of friendship, since she did not really believe that he was coming to see her in peace. After discussing the matter with each other, they decided to create more gods together in order to show their goodwill. Amaterasu chewed up her brother's sword, and spat out the pieces. From these pieces, three goddesses were created. Susano-O then chewed up the necklace which Amaterasu had been wearing, and created five gods. (Among the latter was Masa-ya-a-Katsu Kachi Hayabi-Ama no Oshi-ho-Mimi no Mikoto (Truly-I-Conquer-Swiftness-Heaven-of-Great-August-Person), who eventually became the father of Ninigi no Mikoto, the founder of the imperial line in Japan.)

    It is said that at this point, Susano-O got so excited over his accomplishment that he lost all control. He completely destroyed all of the rice fields and irrigation ditches of heaven, and defiled one of Amaterasu's temples with his excrement. He then threw a flayed horse into a house belonging to Amaterasu where some women were weaving. (In one version of this story, one of the women was so distraught that she accidentally killed herself with her shuttle.) Amaterasu became very afraid when she saw all of her brother's reckless actions. She decided to hide herself in a cave and block it with a large rock. This action on her part plunged all of the heavens and the world into complete darkness, from which the other Kami only recovered by dint of clever stratagems and a measure of good luck.

    Susano-O was punished for all of the mischief he had caused by having his hair cut off and his fingernails pulled. He was then immediately banished from heaven."


    [Original Source]


    *Important Note*

    It is here that Kishimoto makes alterations in Susano’o’s story. The events that surrounded Susano’o and Amaterasu are parallel to the events that surround Itachi and Sasuke. Itachi represents Susano’o and Sasuke represents Amaterasu. The murder represents actions to Konohagakure interest (Uchiha Clan). And Susano’o tries to rectify his wrong-doings by killing Yamata no Orochi, the 8 headed snake.





    Then [His-Swift-Impetuous-Male-Augustness] descended from Heaven and proceeded to the head-waters of the River Hi, in the province of Izumo. At this time he heard a sound of weeping at the head-waters of the river, and he went in search of the sound. He found there an old man and an old woman. Between them was set [sic] a young girl, whom they were caressing and lamenting over. Sosa no wo no Mikoto asked them, saying: "Who are ye and why do ye grieve lament thus?" The answer was: "I am an Earthly Deity, and my name is Ashi-nadzuchi. My wife's name is Te-nadzuchi. This girl is our daughter, and her name is Kushinada-hime. The reason of our weeping is that formerly we had eight children, daughters. But they have been devoured year after year by an eight-forked serpent and now the time approaches for this girl to be devoured. There is no means of escape for her, and therefore do we grieve.” His-Swift-Impetuous-Male-Augustness said: "If that is so, wilt thou give me thy daughter?" He replied, and said: "I will comply with thy behest and give her to thee." Therefore His Swift-Impetuous-Male-Augustness on the spot changed Kushinada-hime into a many-toothed close-comb which he stuck in the august knot of his hair. Then he made Ashi-nadzuchi and Te-nadzuchi to brew eight-fold sake, to make eight cupboards, in each of them to set a tub filled with sake, and so to await the arrival its coming. When the time came, the serpent actually appeared. It had an eight-forked head and an eight-forked tail; its eyes were red, like the winter-cherry; and on its back firs and cypresses were growing. As it crawled it extended over a space of eight hills and eight valleys. Now when it came and found the sake, each head drank up one tub, and it became drunk and fell asleep. Then Sosa no wo no Mikoto drew the ten-span sword which he wore and chopped the serpent into small pieces. When he came to the tail, the edge of his sword was slightly notched, and he therefore split open the tail and examined it. In the inside there was a sword. This is the sword which is called Kusa-nagi no tsurugi. (tr. Aston 1896:1:52-53).

    [Original Source]


    The wine here represents the sword that is drawn into/from the jar and trapped its victims in a genjutsu-like "world of drunken dreams" this is where the recipient goes when being stabbed by the Sword of Totsuka.




    It should be noted that the change in this story is to suite Kishimoto’s view, to better serve the story that he has in place.

    Simply put, the destruction and murder (Uchiha Clan’s annihilation) caused by Susano’o (Itachi), caused Amaterasu (Sasuke) to plunge the world into darkness (Sasuke’s revenge/hate). But Susano’o (Itachi) tries to rectify his failures by killing the Yamata no Orochi (Orochimaru), which saves a person’s from it (Sasuke).

    Additionally; it could be said that Itachi dispelling the Edo Tensei, was another way for Kishimoto to have Susano’o make up for his many wrong-doings, and ease some of Amaterasu’s suffering.

    Basically; as the title states, Itachi is Susano'o.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    tl;dr but cool story man.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    So are you able to find the ending of Naruto since it is quite obvious that Kishi is heavily influenced by these things?
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Impressive. +rep for ur effort
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by MellowHype View Post
    tl;dr but cool story man.
    Bascially; Itachi is Susano'o.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    This explanition is epic ! + rep
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    That is why I love Naruto so much! It is based on actual Gods and myths from Japanese history, which makes it so much better than any other anime period!
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    I am not reading all this shyt, but still a good thread.

    You should've highlighted the parts that pertained the most to your theory, instead of giving us a novel.


    Everyone knows that kishi only takes "some" of the ideas and alters it. Like Tsunade, she's a "Slug Princess" but she shows no extra-ordinary abilities with slugs, just the regular old "summoning" she doesn't utilize her so called "Affinity" with slugs. And in the story of the "Jaraiya the Gallant"(if thats the correct name) Tsunade and jaraiya are suppose to be in-love...with eachother. And Orichimaru is suppose to be scared of Tsunade.Kish doesn't completely "copy", he takes it and turns it into something different.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    nice explination ... i already new some of the myth but this a gr8 explination +rep
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Interesting thread as usual. Does Kishi base any other characters on Japanese legends ?
     
         

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    Epic!!!! I'm spechless! :D
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryRock View Post
    So are you able to find the ending of Naruto since it is quite obvious that Kishi is heavily influenced by these things?
    I can make a reasonable conclusion as to how it may end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    Interesting thread as usual. Does Kishi base any other characters on Japanese legends ?
    Several; Sasuke, Orochimaru, The Uchiha(Tengu), and a few others.
     
         
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    Nice work, as usual.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Great thread, as expected. It'll be interesting to see if Sasuke's up and coming abilities (in particular, his Susanoo) will incorporate the Shinto idea of Tengu.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    An observation I made.



    Masashi Kishimoto character Itachi Uchiha, is designed after the Shinto god Susano’o with a few alterations to the story. Much like the legend, Itachi is shown to have a multi-layered personality, but also holds a compassionate and generous as a main.

    "According to the ancient religion of Shinto, Susano-O no Mikoto, the Brave-Swift-Impetuous-Male, is the god of the storms and of the sea. He is a Kami with a highly volatile temper, who is very often impulsive, but yet he also has a kind and generous side.

    In the religion of Shinto, Kami may have multifaceted personalities. Susano-O is a prime example. The Kami's four spirits or "tama" cause him to behave in many different ways."

    https://www.uwec.edu/philrel/shimbutsudo/susano-o.html



    Susano’o was birth from his father Izanagi, washing his nose to rid himself of the impurities of the Yomi, the underworld. Susano’o is the brother of Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, and is the god of sea and storms. Moreover; Susano’o possessed the Totsuka no Tsurugi, which was a sword his father used to kill his newborn son Kagutsuchi, for burning his mother, Izanami to death. Soon Susano’o was banished from his realm for going against his duties, for wanting to see his mother.

    "During the birthing of Kagu-Tsuchi-no-Kami, the fire god, Izanami was so badly burned that she took sick and eventually stopped moving. This was the first instance of death in the history of the universe. Izanagi was devastated by the tragic loss and exclaimed, "Oh! Thine Augustness my lovely younger sister! Oh! That I should have exchanged thee for this single child!" (Kojiki 33). With that he crept around her inert body, to her head resting against her august pillow, and to her feet, crying and weeping uncontrollably. The Crying-Weeping-Female Deity arose out of his tears. After this, he took his beloved Izanami and buried her. According to the Kojiki account, her grave was located on a mountain named Hiba, which lay at the boundary of the Land of Izumo and the Land of Hahaki (identity unknown). The Nihongi, however, identifies her final resting place as the village of Arima in Kumano (Kojiki 33; Nihongi 21).

    Following this tragedy, Izanagi was in utter despair at the loss of his beloved wife and sister. Drawing his saber sword, named Heavenly or Majestic Point-Blade-Extended, he cut the head off of his child, Kagu-Tsuchi. From the blood that was clinging to the sword were born numerous deities associated with mountains, rocks, sharp snapping noises, and fire (Kojiki 35-7; Nihongi 23). Perhaps volcanoes, of which there are many in Japan, are intended.

    Izanagi was desperate to find Izanami so he followed her into the land of Yomi-no-kuni, the region of death in the underworld. This is the world of ghosts, restless spirits, pollution, and darkness (Ono 102). Izanagi was desperate for Izanami's return and frantically searched for her. When he finally came across her in Yomi, he greeted her with excitement, saying, "Thine Augustness my lovely younger sister! The lands that I and thou made are not yet finished making; so come back" (Kojiki 38)."

    [Original Source]


    "According to the main text of Nihongi, the "three noble children" Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo were also produced at this time, but Kojiki and an "alternate writing" quoted in Nihongi state that the three were produced in a different way. According to these two records, Izanami died as the result of giving birth to the kami of fire, whereupon Izanagi followed his dead wife to the land of Yomi and disobeyed her taboo (see kinki) not to look upon her. Fleeing from the pollution of death, Izanagi then performed lustration (see misogi) which resulted in the birth of the three noble children.

    In contrast to Izanami as "earth mother," Izanagi is thought to have characteristics of a "heavenly father." According to Kojiki, Izanagi "hid away" (i.e., died) in Taga of Ōmi, while Nihongi states that he died either in the province of Awaji or Hi no Wakamiya."

    [Original Source]



    Susano’o was then exile once more for his inexorable aggravation to his sister Amaterasu.

    "He next visited his sister Amaterasu in the Plain of High Heaven (Takamanohara), but he was suspected of insurrection and underwent a trial by pledge (ukei). Declaring himself the winner in the trial, Susanoo ran amok and caused Amaterasu to hide herself away in the heavenly cave, for which offense Susanoo was again banished."

    [Original Source]



    "Susano-O decided that before he left on his journey to the underworld, he wanted to wish his sister Amaterasu farewell. However, his coming shook the ground and made so much noise that Amaterasu thought that danger was coming to her and she began preparing for it. When she saw that it was her brother that had caused all the commotion, she asked him for a sign of friendship, since she did not really believe that he was coming to see her in peace. After discussing the matter with each other, they decided to create more gods together in order to show their goodwill. Amaterasu chewed up her brother's sword, and spat out the pieces. From these pieces, three goddesses were created. Susano-O then chewed up the necklace which Amaterasu had been wearing, and created five gods. (Among the latter was Masa-ya-a-Katsu Kachi Hayabi-Ama no Oshi-ho-Mimi no Mikoto (Truly-I-Conquer-Swiftness-Heaven-of-Great-August-Person), who eventually became the father of Ninigi no Mikoto, the founder of the imperial line in Japan.)

    It is said that at this point, Susano-O got so excited over his accomplishment that he lost all control. He completely destroyed all of the rice fields and irrigation ditches of heaven, and defiled one of Amaterasu's temples with his excrement. He then threw a flayed horse into a house belonging to Amaterasu where some women were weaving. (In one version of this story, one of the women was so distraught that she accidentally killed herself with her shuttle.) Amaterasu became very afraid when she saw all of her brother's reckless actions. She decided to hide herself in a cave and block it with a large rock. This action on her part plunged all of the heavens and the world into complete darkness, from which the other Kami only recovered by dint of clever stratagems and a measure of good luck.

    Susano-O was punished for all of the mischief he had caused by having his hair cut off and his fingernails pulled. He was then immediately banished from heaven."


    [Original Source]


    *Important Note*

    It is here that Kishimoto makes alterations in Susano’o’s story. The events that surrounded Susano’o and Amaterasu are parallel to the events that surround Itachi and Sasuke. Itachi represents Susano’o and Sasuke represents Amaterasu. The murder represents actions to Konohagakure interest (Uchiha Clan). And Susano’o tries to rectify his wrong-doings by killing Yamata no Orochi, the 8 headed snake.





    Then [His-Swift-Impetuous-Male-Augustness] descended from Heaven and proceeded to the head-waters of the River Hi, in the province of Izumo. At this time he heard a sound of weeping at the head-waters of the river, and he went in search of the sound. He found there an old man and an old woman. Between them was set [sic] a young girl, whom they were caressing and lamenting over. Sosa no wo no Mikoto asked them, saying: "Who are ye and why do ye grieve lament thus?" The answer was: "I am an Earthly Deity, and my name is Ashi-nadzuchi. My wife's name is Te-nadzuchi. This girl is our daughter, and her name is Kushinada-hime. The reason of our weeping is that formerly we had eight children, daughters. But they have been devoured year after year by an eight-forked serpent and now the time approaches for this girl to be devoured. There is no means of escape for her, and therefore do we grieve.” His-Swift-Impetuous-Male-Augustness said: "If that is so, wilt thou give me thy daughter?" He replied, and said: "I will comply with thy behest and give her to thee." Therefore His Swift-Impetuous-Male-Augustness on the spot changed Kushinada-hime into a many-toothed close-comb which he stuck in the august knot of his hair. Then he made Ashi-nadzuchi and Te-nadzuchi to brew eight-fold sake, to make eight cupboards, in each of them to set a tub filled with sake, and so to await the arrival its coming. When the time came, the serpent actually appeared. It had an eight-forked head and an eight-forked tail; its eyes were red, like the winter-cherry; and on its back firs and cypresses were growing. As it crawled it extended over a space of eight hills and eight valleys. Now when it came and found the sake, each head drank up one tub, and it became drunk and fell asleep. Then Sosa no wo no Mikoto drew the ten-span sword which he wore and chopped the serpent into small pieces. When he came to the tail, the edge of his sword was slightly notched, and he therefore split open the tail and examined it. In the inside there was a sword. This is the sword which is called Kusa-nagi no tsurugi. (tr. Aston 1896:1:52-53).

    [Original Source]


    The wine here represents the sword that is drawn into/from the jar and trapped its victims in a genjutsu-like "world of drunken dreams" this is where the recipient goes when being stabbed by the Sword of Totsuka.




    It should be noted that the change in this story is to suite Kishimoto’s view, to better serve the story that he has in place.

    Simply put, the destruction and murder (Uchiha Clan’s annihilation) caused by Susano’o (Itachi), caused Amaterasu (Sasuke) to plunge the world into darkness (Sasuke’s revenge/hate). But Susano’o (Itachi) tries to rectify his failures by killing the Yamata no Orochi (Orochimaru), which saves a person’s from it (Sasuke).

    Additionally; it could be said that Itachi dispelling the Edo Tensei, was another way for Kishimoto to have Susano’o make up for his many wrong-doings, and ease some of Amaterasu’s suffering.

    Basically; as the title states, Itachi is Susano'o.
    Good thread! he draws heavily from jap mythology - jiraiya, tsunade, ebisu, izanami, izanagi, etc. etc.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Nice work. But you don't have to interpret it 1 to 1, Kihimoto is using ideas from the mythologies but yet among the influence of his own. Itachi was may going by the path the god Susanoo in the mythologies wa going, but in the series, Susanoo is a technique of his Doujutsu. This is like saying, Itachi would represent Izanagi by performing Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu - Izanagi created both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu through his eyes (don't know in detail), so Itachi is doing it by using these techniques through his eyes. But anyways, nice.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by Strict View Post
    Nice work. But you don't have to interpret it 1 to 1, Kihimoto is using ideas from the mythologies but yet among the influence of his own. Itachi was may going by the path the god Susanoo in the mythologies wa going, but in the series, Susanoo is a technique of his Doujutsu. This is like saying, Itachi would represent Izanagi by performing Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu - Izanagi created both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu through his eyes (don't know in detail), so Itachi is doing it by using these techniques through his eyes. But anyways, nice.
    I know; however the similarities between Itachi and Susano'o in their stories, is what made me believe that Masashi centered Itachi on Susano'o. Initially I thought that Itachi's story was based of Yatagarasu [八咫烏] [the eight-span crow] due to Itachi's usage of the animal, but do to the events that surround both Itachi and Sasuke, it seems as if they both represent the stories of Susano'o and Amaterasu.
     
         

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    Thank you for making this! That's interesting how Kishi makes a story out of Japanese mythology.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Great detailed explanation. I always wondered about susano 'o because I've seen references to him in other anime. Now I know the story and how it applies to Naruto. + rep
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    I'm assuming the 3 Susano'o shown in the manga are the Japanese war deities.

    Bishamonten, armour-clad god of war
    Futsunushi, god of swords and lightning
    Hachiman, Shinto god of war, and divine protector of Japan and the Japanese people

    There are two doujutsu the use of which is allowed exclusively to those who have awakened to the clairvoyant eyes of Heaven, the Mangekyou Sharingan: Amaterasu, which speaks of Light and the material world, and Tsukuyomi, symbolizing the spiritual world and Darkness. Only in them who hold both of those, dwells the power of the wild, rampaging god... Susanoo. The materialized chakra shapes itself after the wargod's commanding face and powerful physique, and the fierce spirit won't subside until the destruction of all the enemies in its line of sight...!!

    There's a reason why Susanoo can boast perfect flawlessness in its offense and defense: the spiritual weapons it holds in both hands. The Sword of Totsuka* in its right hand, which will mow down any kind of enemy, and the Mirror of Yata*, upon which all attacks will bounce back. Substantial or spiritual, and then ninjutsu or physical attacks lose all kinds of significance before the god's efficacy.


    -In the pupils that grasp the principles behind Heaven and Earth, dwells the valorous sword-wielding, shield-bearing Aragami***!!

    -Protecting its caster, it destroys the enemy!

    -In its left and right hands are held the unparalleled, wondrous Sacred Treasures* of virtues miraculous.


    -Only those who have carried mastery of Mangekyou Sharingan - the doujutsu feared by those around it as the strongest - to its extremes will come onto the god's territory. A guardian deity to its caster, it eats away their life at the same time.
    Could be wrong though
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by Drakengard View Post
    I'm assuming the 3 Susano'o shown in the manga are the Japanese war deities.

    Bishamonten, armour-clad god of war
    Futsunushi, god of swords and lightning
    Hachiman, Shinto god of war, and divine protector of Japan and the Japanese people



    Could be wrong though
    No; I'm assuming the same, for the overall appearance from the Susano'o differs from its possessor. Furthermore; you are aware that this thread is only stating that Masashi only used the story of Susano'o in his conception of Itachi correct?
     
         

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    Re: Itachi is Susano'o

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    No; I'm assuming the same, for the overall appearance from the Susano'o differs from its possessor. Furthermore; you are aware that this thread is only stating that Masashi only used the story of Susano'o in his conception of Itachi correct?
    Yeah I know

    I've seen the connection the god Susano'o had with Itachi's actions but I always thought it was just portraying Itachi's Susano'o and whatnot (being its debut and what not). Never though it would be Itachi himself, so good job on this thread!
     
         

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