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    "Retarded" Naruto

    I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

    Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

    He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

    He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

    Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

    Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

    He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

    He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

    Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.
    I totally see that but its stupid to let himself be used as a punching bag especially after defeating Pain, an Akutski top dog. He shouldnt let anyone put their hands on him, but I do understand the whole point about keeping the chain of hatred going if they go and kill Sauske.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Dude i've been thinking about it too. But hell, noone would allow himself to be a punching bad, that's just plain stupid. He could just *state his point* and punch them back and then explain his point once more. But why allow them to hit him?


    And what chain of hatred is he referring to? really... Sasuke is a missing nin and should be treatened like one, and there is no difference WHO will kill Sasuke - Lightning ninja or KOnoha anbu. The only difference between them, tbh, is that the first ones have a decent reason to kill Sasuke.

    And it's pretty kind of logical to go look for Sasuke first because he was the one who captured their sensei, isn't he? So he should know where is KIrabi located. I don't see how are they jsut gonne look for Kirabi without facing Sasuke ;/

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    I know what kind of stupid goal does Naruto aim for, I got kind of used to that, Hell, I'm even used to Naruto always caring for Sasuke (Sasuke would never betray me (that;s GOLD) ), but never, never will I be able to udnerstand the last intention of his. This is a whole new level of retardness... unable to be comprehended (spelling) by me.
     
         
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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Curtain Messiah View Post
    Dude i've been thinking about it too. But hell, noone would allow himself to be a punching bad, that's just plain stupid. He could just *state his point* and punch them back and then explain his point once more. But why allow them to hit him?


    And what chain of hatred is he referring to? really... Sasuke is a missing nin and should be treatened like one, and there is no difference WHO will kill Sasuke - Lightning ninja or KOnoha anbu. The only difference between them, tbh, is that the first ones have a decent reason to kill Sasuke.

    And it's pretty kind of logical to go look for Sasuke first because he was the one who captured their sensei, isn't he? So he should know where is KIrabi located. I don't see how are they jsut gonne look for Kirabi without facing Sasuke ;/
    The chain of hatred will continue because once again ninja will kill other ninja because of Sauske kidnapping the 8 tails. If they would succeed in killing Sauske that would lead to other ninja wanting revenge, like Sakura and Naruto and maybe Suaske's current team "Hawk".
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Ah... it's Naruto , I don't mind this xD
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Lets hear something objective then... What else should he do? They need at least something to give them closure on this matter, be it punching Naruto or poking ton-ton with a stick.

    If your mom was killed, would you refrain from holding the perpetrator in contempt because his friends might get pissed and cause world war 3?
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    That chain of hatred speal wasn't very accurate. He said he didn't want them to kill Sasuke becuase people in Konoha would want to kill them. But o.nly one person would try...and that's Sakura lol. Everyone else would understand becuase well...he has it comming.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    Lets hear something objective then... What else should he do? They need at least something to give them closure on this matter, be it punching Naruto or poking ton-ton with a stick.

    If your mom was killed, would you refrain from holding the perpetrator in contempt because his friends might get pissed and cause world war 3?
    1 - At least not be a punching bag

    2 - Don't you compare mom with a bloody traitor.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Curtain Messiah View Post
    1 - At least not be a punching bag

    2 - Don't you compare mom with a bloody traitor.
    1. It was something momentary.

    2. No, but Naruto doesn't regard Sasuke as a "bloody traitor" now, does he?
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    1. It was something momentary.

    2. No, but Naruto doesn't regard Sasuke as a "bloody traitor" now, does he?
    1. Momentary and retarded

    2. Correct, a retardness leads to even more retardness In Naruto's case.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Curtain Messiah View Post
    1. Momentary and retarded

    2. Correct, a retardness leads to even more retardness In Naruto's case.
    Come on man, you're obviously not making any sense other than that you disapprove of Narutos ways lol.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    Come on man, you're obviously not making any sense other than that you disapprove of Narutos ways lol.
    Correct, and you're not making any sense other than that you approve of his ways

    Really, I stated my opinion concerning this particular matter, I explained why exactly is Naruto retarded. And correct, I don't like his ways of thinking and his idea of peace

    This whole manga is about ninjas, now what is Narutos goal ? Correct. To destroy the ninja world and bring peace to Naruto Universe. Very wise. Unfortunately, not for me. He is trying to destroy something which makes this manga interesting. He's the main antagonist, if you could interpret it like that
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Curtain Messiah View Post
    Dude i've been thinking about it too. But hell, noone would allow himself to be a punching bad, that's just plain stupid. He could just *state his point* and punch them back and then explain his point once more. But why allow them to hit him?


    And what chain of hatred is he referring to? really... Sasuke is a missing nin and should be treatened like one, and there is no difference WHO will kill Sasuke - Lightning ninja or KOnoha anbu. The only difference between them, tbh, is that the first ones have a decent reason to kill Sasuke.

    And it's pretty kind of logical to go look for Sasuke first because he was the one who captured their sensei, isn't he? So he should know where is KIrabi located. I don't see how are they jsut gonne look for Kirabi without facing Sasuke ;/

    edited:

    I know what kind of stupid goal does Naruto aim for, I got kind of used to that, Hell, I'm even used to Naruto always caring for Sasuke (Sasuke would never betray me (that;s GOLD) ), but never, never will I be able to udnerstand the last intention of his. This is a whole new level of retardness... unable to be comprehended (spelling) by me.

    answer this question dude,

    how would you feel if you were hitting an innocent person over something a friend of theirs did?...And they refuse to hit you back...
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    I think Karui will stop hitting Naruto and be moved to tears.

    There we go, problem solved. Naruto will say something nice like: "We will find your master" or "I'm sure your Master is alright" just to comfort her after his beating.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Curtain Messiah View Post
    Correct, and you're not making any sense other than that you approve of his ways

    Really, I stated my opinion concerning this particular matter, I explained why exactly is Naruto retarded. And correct, I don't like his ways of thinking and his idea of peace

    This whole manga is about ninjas, now what is Narutos goal ? Correct. To destroy the ninja world and bring peace to Naruto Universe. Very wise. Unfortunately, not for me. He is trying to destroy something which makes this manga interesting. He's the main antagonist, if you could interpret it like that
    I am competely agree with you about Naruto's retarded. should i say Kishi retarded as well? the peace to the ninja world is impossible, helloOOOO kishi??? are you dreaming or what? Everyone considers Naruto is a hero and now he allows a weakling punch him like that? Kishi does not make sense at all about this peace matter. it is getting pathetic to see the peace-talk again when it already had it with Pain. Kishi should make Naruto as a mature and grown man now... i prefer those cloud ninjas kill off naruto (just go ahead and die naruto, and you will bring peace to the world, since you want people beat you up) , stop that stupid peacetalk and lets have some actions...
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by dredblack7 View Post
    I think Karui will stop hitting Naruto and be moved to tears.

    There we go, problem solved. Naruto will say something nice like: "We will find your master" or "I'm sure your Master is alright" just to comfort her after his beating.
    I doubt it's going to happen as you predicted, but that would be lame if it happens. It's nothing new about that theory; i am pretty sure Kishi will do it; just like he diid to Pain. come give me a break
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzboy300 View Post
    I am competely agree with you about Naruto's retarded. should i say Kishi retarded as well? the peace to the ninja world is impossible, helloOOOO kishi??? are you dreaming or what? Everyone considers Naruto is a hero and now he allows a weakling punch him like that? Kishi does not make sense at all about this peace matter. it is getting pathetic to see the peace-talk again when it already had it with Pain. Kishi should make Naruto as a mature and grown man now... i prefer those cloud ninjas kill off naruto (just go ahead and die naruto, and you will bring peace to the world, since you want people beat you up) , stop that stupid peacetalk and lets have some actions...
    Too bad this whole series currently revolve around peace.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

    Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

    He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

    He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

    Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.

    i understand your point entirely
    but the hard part for people to understand is th fact that he has voluterily become a punching bag which is something only mothers do for thier kids and husbands for their wives

    since as far as we know sasuke is neither to naruto its odd to see him go so far for a freind that has severed his ties with him
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by kabumaru View Post
    i understand your point entirely
    but the hard part for people to understand is th fact that he has voluterily become a punching bag which is something only mothers do for thier kids and husbands for their wives

    since as far as we know sasuke is neither to naruto its odd to see him go so far for a freind that has severed his ties with him
    Sasuke is to Naruto one of his first bonds and it's likely he regards him as a brother. And from having followed the series this far you should all know that he is and always will be willing to go this far for Sasuke.

    He also knows those cloud-nins ought to have at least an ounce of dignity and will stop hitting him out of shame at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by dredblack7 View Post
    answer this question dude,

    how would you feel if you were hitting an innocent person over something a friend of theirs did?...And they refuse to hit you back...
    Exactly, another thing that's common to human nature. >_>
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    Sasuke is to Naruto one of his first bonds and it's likely he regards him as a brother. And from having followed the series this far you should all know that he is and always will be willing to go this far for Sasuke.

    He also knows those cloud-nins ought to have at least an ounce of dignity and will stop hitting him out of shame at some point.



    Exactly, another thing that's common to human nature. >_>
    i agree with you i was just giving a few examples to illustrate why people are calling him retarted

    naruto doesn surprise me anymore i expect the most outlandish almost idiotic stuff thats what makes him him

    i used to hate him but i admire his dedication to freindships
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    basically, i agree with you and naruto's increased healing rate helps him to stay able to fight. what naruto does is just consequent. however, there wont be always an enemy like these two or like nagato, who havent any intention to kill him and arent able to attack sasuke. if he stops fighting back, he will be caught and dead.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Revan View Post
    basically, i agree with you and naruto's increased healing rate helps him to stay able to fight. what naruto does is just consequent. however, there wont be always an enemy like these two or like nagato, who havent any intention to kill him and arent able to attack sasuke. if he stops fighting back, he will be caught and dead.
    If two murderous shinobi came out to interrogate him for information and he still offered himself as a punching bag I might have agreed with you, but I think he's well aware of their intent.

    As the main character he's not as stupid as his foolish demeanor.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by dredblack7 View Post
    answer this question dude,

    how would you feel if you were hitting an innocent person over something a friend of theirs did?...And they refuse to hit you back...

    Why would I do that?
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Curtain Messiah View Post
    Why would I do that?
    Please try to see the threads entirety. It's rhetorical and points towards peoples own pride. You would end up despising yourself for hitting a person who isn't fighting back when he in the end doesn't have anything to do with the situation.
     
         

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    Re: "Retarded" Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    Please try to see the threads entirety. It's rhetorical and points towards peoples own pride. You would end up despising yourself for hitting a person who isn't fighting back when he in the end doesn't have anything to do with the situation.

    Of course I would.
    Cloud nin were inadequate at that moment though.
     
         

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