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    gaara's sand

    so now that gaara has reentered the storyline i have seen a couple posts about how gaara doesnt have his special ultimate defense sand. but here Naruto 249 page 02 | One Manga deidara states how the sand works, he doesnt have that sand because of the 1-tails, he has it because overtime he continually stores chakra in the sand, which makes it faster and stronger. so gaara doesnt need the 1-tails for his ultimate defense. so gaara still has his mastery over sand. oh and here is my prediction for gaara, i think that gaara has mastered the use of metal sand like the 3rd kazekage, and my reason being that kishi showed it to us in the sasori fight as a teaser of wat gaara's eventual evolution will be. and if you think about this evolution it is pretty logical to go from controlling sand wit chakra to controlling metal sand wit chakra. and since the villains are now becoming uber powerful it is going to take uber powerful good guys to win. and sorry but i dont see the rookie 12(exluding sasuke and naruto) becoming kage level any time soon. and if kishi wants to give naruto strong teammates i think they are gonna have to come from other villages. and i think that is where naruto's uber strong "be my friend" jutsu comes in. he has already befriended gaara and gaara will need to be even more powerful than he was, and thats where metal sand comes in. now as a super thin theory i think gaara and naruto will join the enka ninja that kirabi talked about. now both my theories are mere speculation but i feel like my explanation of gaara's sand is pretty spot on but i am open to others' opinions, let me know your opinions
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    mastery of iron sand is a kekkei genkai...Unless Gaara is the unrevealed bastard son of the 3rd Kaze then forget it.
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Uchiha View Post
    mastery of iron sand is a kekkei genkai...Unless Gaara is the unrevealed bastard son of the 3rd Kaze then forget it.
    whose to say the 3rd wasnt his grandfather?? cause if i remember right i believe he was as old as chiyo, and it took the sand a while to replace him thats why they talked about replacing gaara so soon. i know its thin so thats why i called it speculation, and the reason i saw that connection was because gaara's ability is unique and the only other person we have seen with an ability like it was the third so i think it is very reasonable to believe that they are related and that gaara has the potential to unlock the ability of metal sand
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    whose to say the 3rd wasnt his grandfather?? cause if i remember right i believe he was as old as chiyo, and it took the sand a while to replace him thats why they talked about replacing gaara so soon. i know its thin so thats why i called it speculation, and the reason i saw that connection was because gaara's ability is unique and the only other person we have seen with an ability like it was the third so i think it is very reasonable to believe that they are related and that gaara has the potential to unlock the ability of metal sand
    weak argument.

    anyway...
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Uchiha View Post
    weak argument.

    anyway...
    how is that weak?? theyre abilities are very similar so why shouldnt they be related??? how is that weak?? im not sayin its not but at least tell me why, dont just brush me off all arrogant like
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    I agree that he still has the same level of control over sand, but I dont think he can control iron sand, like Izuna said it's a kekkei genkai
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    how is that weak?? theyre abilities are very similar so why shouldnt they be related??? how is that weak?? im not sayin its not but at least tell me why, dont just brush me off all arrogant like
    Just cause they both have sand in the name doesnt mean they're similar
    Iron Sand is all about Magnetism
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    haha alright u guys win im over it now, way to rain on my parade lol jk jk, i knew it was thin but hey oh well now how bout the enka ninja theory??? and am i right assuming that u guys agree wit me about gaara's sand control??
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    I always had the impression the enka ninja are a ninja music band they were mentioned only once so I dont think so... sorry
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    It is a kekkie genkai but the kazekage saw the shukaku jinchurikis ability to use sand but the magnetic forces that allow it to be metal is somehting only he 3rd kazekage and his clan can use
    You are right to say that the Iron Sand and Gaaras Sand Jutsu are related but unless You are right in saying that gaara is the 3rd kazekages grandson or something like that(which is possible, afte the 3rd was taken whas a good substitute for the time? His son the 4th than his son the 5th or gaara) than he cannot use iron sand, but it wouuld be awsome if he could
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    so now that gaara has reentered the storyline i have seen a couple posts about how gaara doesnt have his special ultimate defense sand. but here Naruto 249 page 02 | One Manga deidara states how the sand works, he doesnt have that sand because of the 1-tails, he has it because overtime he continually stores chakra in the sand, which makes it faster and stronger. so gaara doesnt need the 1-tails for his ultimate defense. so gaara still has his mastery over sand. oh and here is my prediction for gaara, i think that gaara has mastered the use of metal sand like the 3rd kazekage, and my reason being that kishi showed it to us in the sasori fight as a teaser of wat gaara's eventual evolution will be. and if you think about this evolution it is pretty logical to go from controlling sand wit chakra to controlling metal sand wit chakra. and since the villains are now becoming uber powerful it is going to take uber powerful good guys to win. and sorry but i dont see the rookie 12(exluding sasuke and naruto) becoming kage level any time soon. and if kishi wants to give naruto strong teammates i think they are gonna have to come from other villages. and i think that is where naruto's uber strong "be my friend" jutsu comes in. he has already befriended gaara and gaara will need to be even more powerful than he was, and thats where metal sand comes in. now as a super thin theory i think gaara and naruto will join the enka ninja that kirabi talked about. now both my theories are mere speculation but i feel like my explanation of gaara's sand is pretty spot on but i am open to others' opinions, let me know your opinions
    u got it spot on again
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    he did learn something new because they focused on his gourd at the end of the manga chapter. Maybe not ironsand but he learned something new and he go be kickin some ass again. thats just what I think
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    It is not a bloodline limit.

    Its just simple uniqe power just like wood control.
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by FiveManRasengan View Post
    It is not a bloodline limit.

    Its just simple uniqe power just like wood control.
    maybe you didnt know but yamato got his power from the firsts dna and that was the only way to obtain his wood control
    dna = bloodline
    thus wood control is a kekke genkai

    and for the thirds iron sand i dony know but wood is a kekke genkai hands down
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    How come he is the only one being able to do it?
    His father or mother must have been able too do it too.

    And tsunade.....(wood)

    Note that yamato was one in 50 chance to survive.

    When Naruto was training Futon rasengan he asked yamato if he had a bloodline limit. He said No...
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    so now that gaara has reentered the storyline i have seen a couple posts about how gaara doesnt have his special ultimate defense sand. but here Naruto 249 page 02 | One Manga deidara states how the sand works, he doesnt have that sand because of the 1-tails, he has it because overtime he continually stores chakra in the sand, which makes it faster and stronger. so gaara doesnt need the 1-tails for his ultimate defense. so gaara still has his mastery over sand. oh and here is my prediction for gaara, i think that gaara has mastered the use of metal sand like the 3rd kazekage, and my reason being that kishi showed it to us in the sasori fight as a teaser of wat gaara's eventual evolution will be. and if you think about this evolution it is pretty logical to go from controlling sand wit chakra to controlling metal sand wit chakra. and since the villains are now becoming uber powerful it is going to take uber powerful good guys to win. and sorry but i dont see the rookie 12(exluding sasuke and naruto) becoming kage level any time soon. and if kishi wants to give naruto strong teammates i think they are gonna have to come from other villages. and i think that is where naruto's uber strong "be my friend" jutsu comes in. he has already befriended gaara and gaara will need to be even more powerful than he was, and thats where metal sand comes in. now as a super thin theory i think gaara and naruto will join the enka ninja that kirabi talked about. now both my theories are mere speculation but i feel like my explanation of gaara's sand is pretty spot on but i am open to others' opinions, let me know your opinions
    I say this all the time. TOO THOUGHT OUT.
    1. Rookie 9.
    2. Gaara has been using sand to fight since he was at least 3. If he had the Iron sand ability I am sure we'd know by now.
    3. Gaara's sand is independant of his will. Kankuro says it, and when we see flashbacks of his past we see him trying to cut himself with a knife, but the sand protects him. This is because of the Shukaku not wanting him to die, cause otherwise Shukaku will die.
    4. Gaara may have lost Shukaku, and still have the ability to control sand, but I think this is merely because Shukaku was in his body for so long that some of its abilities mixed with Gaaras. Since Gaaras chakra was used for this technique maybe the sand responds to his chakra.
     
         

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    Re: gaara's sand

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    so now that gaara has reentered the storyline i have seen a couple posts about how gaara doesnt have his special ultimate defense sand. but here Naruto 249 page 02 | One Manga deidara states how the sand works, he doesnt have that sand because of the 1-tails, he has it because overtime he continually stores chakra in the sand, which makes it faster and stronger. so gaara doesnt need the 1-tails for his ultimate defense. so gaara still has his mastery over sand. oh and here is my prediction for gaara, i think that gaara has mastered the use of metal sand like the 3rd kazekage, and my reason being that kishi showed it to us in the sasori fight as a teaser of wat gaara's eventual evolution will be. and if you think about this evolution it is pretty logical to go from controlling sand wit chakra to controlling metal sand wit chakra. and since the villains are now becoming uber powerful it is going to take uber powerful good guys to win. and sorry but i dont see the rookie 12(exluding sasuke and naruto) becoming kage level any time soon. and if kishi wants to give naruto strong teammates i think they are gonna have to come from other villages. and i think that is where naruto's uber strong "be my friend" jutsu comes in. he has already befriended gaara and gaara will need to be even more powerful than he was, and thats where metal sand comes in. now as a super thin theory i think gaara and naruto will join the enka ninja that kirabi talked about. now both my theories are mere speculation but i feel like my explanation of gaara's sand is pretty spot on but i am open to others' opinions, let me know your opinions
    there's one little error here and that is that no one said he lost the ability they say he lost the automatic shield of sand wich the shukaku controled and thats a disvantage because he now as to make it himself and waste time , chakra and focus on battle.
    the part about naruto and gaara vs akatsuki i think ur right on that.
    no he cant use metal sand thats uniq for the 3rd kazekage that had magnitic properties(and if he was able to use it i guess he would use it against deidara).
    in terms of sand control i believe he as it all praticaly at the same level as before
     
         

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