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    Orochimaru's abilities

    Orochimaru was always the strongest of sannin and was very likely stronger then Hiruzen

    Orochimaru's jutsus
    1. Attack prevention technique
    With this technique, the user can merge into a surface to avoid damage. The user can also move unseen and attack from behind.


    2. Binding Snake Glare spell
    The user summons one or two big snakes which crawl out from one's sleeves, and coil around the enemy capturing them. This is a great technique for capturing someone alive, or for inflicting damage by constriction, and if the situation calls for it, the snakes can bite the victim with their poison fangs. With the summons specified beforehand, the procedure can be shortened by using blood on a summoning "contract seal" (結印, ketsuin), making it possible to use the technique immediately. The further addition of the user's killing intent can weaken their target's resolve.

    Snakes summoned by this technique are on a whole other level in terms of intelligence and strength, compared to normal summons. It is said that even shinobi with great skill are unable to escape from this restraint.

    Body Flame technique
    A technique used similar to the Body Flicker Technique. When using this technique, the body looks like it's being engulfed by flames, disappearing from view slowly.

    Body Sheddin jutsu
    Used primarily after sustaining massive injury or as a means to elude a seemingly inescapable attack, this technique allows the user to materialise a new body — typically by regurgitating it from their mouth — in a manner that somewhat resembles how a snake sheds its skin.

    After emerging, the user's clothing and injuries are completely restored, with even amputated limbs being regenerated. Whilst the technique has the additional advantage of potentially being extremely difficult to detect, its use consumes a great amount of chakra

    Casualty Puppet
    it allows the user to partially absorb a freshly killed corpse, transforming it into an extension of the user's body. Though absorbing allows one to gain access to the target's techniques, the use of Casualty Puppet can warp the user's mind, making the user highly unstable with only a great shock snapping him back to his senses.

    Earth Style: shadow clone jutsu
    This technique creates a shadow clone made of mud of the user. Since its made of mud, it can continue to reform and mould itself back to its original shape. After reverting to mud, it can hold the opponent in place.

    Eight Branches Technique
    This is Orochimaru's greatest and strongest technique. Using the "power of reincarnation" possessed by the White Snake as an intermediary, he can transform into a giant white serpent with eight heads and eight tails. The serpent boasts a giant body, even larger than that of Manda, who was feared as the "strongest colossal serpent". Just by crawling on the scales of its abdomen it was able to trample the Uchiha hideout, and could destroy most things without difficulty. This technique transcends the "Snake", and becomes like a "Dragon God".



    When using this technique, Orochimaru can emerge from the mouth of one of the heads and use his Sword of Kusanagi to attack, even without a host.

    Five Elements Seal
    This technique produces a powerful seal that is used to block or disturb the flow of chakra in a target. Once the seal is completed, the target will become unconscious and unable to fight for a short time. Orochimaru performed this jutsu to tamper with Naruto Uzumaki's seal. The original seal allowed a small amount of the Nine-Tails' chakra to always mix into Naruto's, but the additional seal disturbs this, preventing Naruto from using the Nine-Tails' chakra or even controlling his own chakra properly. This is because an odd-numbered seal creates an imbalance when placed on top of an even-numbered seal. When Orochimaru later notices that the seal has been removed, he remarks that there are very few ninja capable of doing so.

    Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes
    With this technique, a countless number of summoned snakes crawl out of Orochimaru's mouth and hunt down the enemy. With such overwhelming numbers, a true "wall of snakes" is formed, making defence and evasion meaningless. The enemy can do nothing but become buried by the snakes. The snakes can bite the enemy with their poison fangs and open their mouths to extend Kusanagi-like blades, making them even more deadly. Furthermore, when the inexhaustibly crawling snakes gather together, they become a defensive wall, and can block any kind of attack.

    Gathering of The Snakes
    If Orochimaru is somehow bisected by the opponent, snakes come from the halves and bring him back together.

    Genjutsu Binding
    As the name suggests, the user binds the opponent in a genjutsu, rendering them incapable of movement. As Tsunade demonstrates when facing the Legendary Stupid Brothers, this genjutsu can be used on more than one target at the same time. Once the target is bound, the user or an ally can rush up to the enemy and deliver a devastating killing blow.

    Hideout Destruction Trap
    A timed set trap used by Orochimaru to destroy any trace of an old hideout of his by what appears to be a mud water vortex. It activates whether or not there are people left in the hideout.

    Many Hidden Shadow Snake Hands
    By increasing the amount of snakes summoned with the Hidden Shadow Snake Hands, the diversity of this ninjutsu is increased. The swarm of big snakes appear in an instant, each snake individually doing something like intimidating, diverting, or capturing the enemy in a cooperative attack. Without giving them the time to react, the enemy is entangled.

    Orochimaru's Juinjutsu
    Orochimaru's Juinjutsu are the cursed seals that were an often-used technique of Orochimaru in the series.
    OverView:
    Orochimaru usually gave his cursed seal to his most powerful and unique followers and guinea pigs to either make them his strongest warriors or to prepare them to become a potential host bodies in the future or simply as test subjects. To apply a cursed seal, Orochimaru usually bit his intended target. As he had sharp fangs and an extendible neck, this was a relatively simple task. The seal then appeared on the body of the victim near the puncture wound, which would cause them to subsequently loses consciousness. The design of the seals could either vary from person-to-person or was dependent on the type of seal Orochimaru chose to brand the victim with. If the victim had survived the application of the seal, they would awaken with the first level of the seal activated and enraged due to the seal's influence.

    Orochimaru originally developed the cursed seals through experimentation on Jūgo, whose body naturally produces an enzyme that triggers bodily transformations, on which the cursed seal is based. Like in Jūgo and his clan members, the unrefined enzyme, extracted from him produces rage and madness in those exposed to it, while the cursed seal does not have such deficiency. Similarly, Jūgo is not limited to a single transformation, and can change the advantages of his form to fit the situation. It should also be noted that anyone who survives the application of the cursed seal is "compatible" with Jūgo. This was shown when he was able to transplant some of his flesh to Sasuke.

    The cursed seals that are partially made from Orochimaru's chakra, also contain parts of his consciousness, and thus allows him to be revived when combined with a piece of his DNA to utilise the Evil Releasing Method on a host like Anko Mitarashi, Orochimaru can be resurrected completely even if his original body and self were destroyed.

    For the anime-exclusive seals, they tend to have fatal side effects if handled improperly, as seen when Mizuki's seal, which is unique in that it requires extra procedures to activate its powers, he nearly died due to using it earlier than he should, and lost all his powers regardless. The ones administrated onto Team Guren would kill them if they do not take the required medication periodically, which prevents them from escaping Orochimaru's clutches.
    Mechanics:
    The state forcefully absorbs a user's chakra while giving Orochimaru's own senjutsu chakra into the user's body in return, granting enhancements comparable to those of Sage Mode. The user must also possess an above-average chakra capacity in order to wield the cursed seal's power. The key differences between the sage mode and a cursed seal are that the latter's users have no control over natural energy, thus senjutsu chakra in itself. The forced transformation seemingly eats away at the user's chakra to sustain its state, as Anko noted, with possibly fatal consequences. As long as a user has sufficient chakra to sustain the state, he or she would then obtain additional chakra to perform skills that would have been otherwise incapable of due to exhaustion. However, this additional chakra is separate and distinct from the user's own chakra, and techniques generated whilst in second level transformation assume a different colour. While the enhancements granted by the cursed seals are noteworthy, they mostly are inferior in comparison to those of Sage Mode.

    Because the seals forcibly draws chakra from it's user, they will often kill the user when first applied. Orochimaru has averaged a ten-percent success rate when applying these seals based on his first experiment with his ten test subjects, with only one survivor, his student. Additionally, even if the users survive, their body will not be able to easily control the power of the seal given to them. To compensate for this, Orochimaru developed the Mind Awakening Pill. The drug forces a user's body to become accustomed to the unnatural increase in power, but also kills the one who takes it. The sealing technique Four Black Fog Battle Formation and Dark Sealing Method are used to keep the drug from killing the users by placing them in a temporary death state. Prolonged usage of the seals would also corrode both the body and mind of the users due to Orochimaru's chakra being present, making it easier for them to be susceptible to his influence.
    Transformations:
    The seals have two different levels, and the types of transformations differ from seal to seal. When inactive, the seal is simply a black tattoo on the user's body. Orochimaru has a wide array of cursed seals, so the appearance and power of the seal will usually vary. Each seal always has three identical marks arranged in a circular pattern. When first activated, the marks on the seal glow and replicate, spreading over the user's body. This is known as the first level (状態1, Jōtai Ichi; Literally meaning "State 1") of the seal. The degree to which this occurs is dependent on the user, and the degree to which it spreads is proportionate to the overall effect it has. Normally, the wearer of the seal will also experience slight pains during the activation of this level.

    The second level (状態2, Jōtai Ni; Literally meaning "State 2") of the seal causes the black marks to completely envelop a user. This is followed by an unnatural alteration of the user's body, with the only common features being yellow eyes with a black sclerae, skin changing colour, and longer hair. When in this level, the seal also eats away at the mind and personality of its users, driving them to madness if used for too long. It also takes quite a toll on their body, since they are being mutated by the seal. Aside from the first and second levels of the seal, skilled users of the seal are able to perform partial transformations in which the aforementioned mutation caused to the user's body in the level two state can be used without altering the entire body. The power of the cursed seal can even synchronize with the user's regular body with extended use, increasing the stats of their normal state for a short time.
    Types of Seals:[
    Cursed Seal of Heaven
    Wearers: Sasuke Uchiha, Anko Mitarashi

    Cursed Seal of Earth
    Wearer: Kimimaro

    Sound Four's Cursed Seals
    Wearers: Jirōbō, Kidōmaru, Tayuya, Sakon and Ukon

    Orochimaru's Prisoners
    Wearers: Ahiko, Guren, Takishi, Tsukushi

    Animal Cursed Seal (Anime only)
    Wearer: Mizuki

    Team Guren
    Wearers: Nurari, Kihō, Kigiri


    Slithering Snake Mode
    Orochimaru turns the lower half of his body into a snake's tail, which greatly increases his speed and agility. An alternative version is Orochimaru shedding his skin, revealing a new body that already has a snake's tail.

    Soft Physique Modification
    Originally developed for spying activities, this technique can be done after some surgery and actual body modification. The user dislocates their joints then controls their softened body with chakra, allowing them to stretch and twist any part of their body at any angle, elongating and even coiling around their opponent. This can also be used to make the user's body more malleable and snakelike. Orochimaru's version allows him to stretch any of his body parts well beyond their normal length and allows him to move in the manner of a snake.

    Summoning Snakes
    Orochimaru is heavily associated with snakes: his personality, appearance and even name are snake-like or orientated. After many experiments and forbidden techniques, Orochimaru's true form indeed became that of a snake. Orochimaru was also able to use senjutsu, and with this knowledge he developed the cursed seals.
    Overview:
    The snakes vary greatly in size, body mass and species, from small enough to hide in one's sleeves to larger than buildings, and thin enough to be used to tie someone's hands[1] to strong enough to choke a colossal animal like the Island Turtle. Although common snakes cannot speak human language like toads, some of their summoners could communicate with them. They are able to detect live beings by their heat and smell in order to track and lead their summoners to their prey.

    Manda II, the genetically-enhanced clone of Manda.

    Orochimaru frequently summons snakes in battle, either having them attack for him or instructing them to carry out other tasks. While most snakes are very obedient and do as they are instructed, the largest snake, Manda, demanded a sacrifice of a hundred humans in exchange for helping Orochimaru.

    Snakes have also mastered the use of natural energy to enter a Sage Mode of their own. The only known way to learn it is in the Ryūchi Cave with the White Snake Sage.

    Known Snakes:
    1.

    2.

    3. Leader of All Snakes:


    Summoning: Resurrection/ Edo Tensei
    The Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation (口寄せ・穢土転生, Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei) is a forbidden technique used to reincarnate the dead.

    After the individual has been summoned and awakened, the summoner can bind the individual to their will by using a special talisman, which is attached to the end of a kunai and implanted in the brain. Upon implanting the talisman, the reincarnated individual will regenerate further, eliminating any remaining imperfections with the exception of small cracks that may run across the body and restoring colour to their bodies.

    Different talismans can be used to enact different degrees of control. Orochimaru's talismans completely eliminated the personalities of the summoned, turning them into mindless killing machines under his command. Kabuto prefers to use a weaker binding talisman on certain individuals, allowing them to retain some degree of their own personality. The latter method is useful for psychological warfare, and can also allow the summoned individual to tap into their own emotions, memories, or creativity to enhance their effectiveness in combat, but also carries a host of drawbacks; it takes more effort to retain control with the weaker binding which can make it possible for the hearts of the summoned to be swayed by strong emotions, which can result in the soul breaking free and returning to the Pure World, or the reincarnated contradicting orders that they are given. Reincarnated shinobi with their personalities still intact have their movements limited to certain actions, and are basically on "auto-pilot" to react to enemy techniques. Once they recognise an enemy technique their bodies are programmed to counter it with an appropriate method.
    The pebbles and grid Kabuto uses to monitor the reincarnated shinobi.

    Even so, Kabuto can completely remove their personalities if he needed, and may elect to if they resist his command too strongly. After gaining more experience with the technique, and absorbing Orochimaru's chakra from Anko Mitarashi, Kabuto exerts greater control over the summoned and can even overwrite his own talismans, greatly increasing the power of the binding. Once deployed, he can either remotely control or track the summoned individuals using pebbles he manipulates on a simple grid, which acts as a map of sorts. When a reincarnated person is sealed, the pebble cracks and disappears, and the reincarnated shinobi can no longer be used to summon others. This was seen when Haku an Zabuza were immobilised by Kakashi, Maki, and the rest of their division. The pebble for his trump card was black in colour while the others are light-coloured. The summoner can also directly talk through the summoned individual.

    Provided the summoner has not eliminated the reincarnated person's personality, they can break the link binding him or her to the summoner. In doing so, they take full control of their being and if the technique is cancelled, they will remain under their own power, with the immortal body and chakra the technique provides.

    Summoning:Tripple Rashomen
    The Summoning: Triple Rashōmon is an upgrade to the standard Summoning: Rashōmon, which, as its name suggests, creates three Rashōmon Gates. The technique requires two summoning seals to be completed. These gates serve the same function as the standard Rashōmon Gate, but with triple the defence.

    Each gate has a specific duty:

    The first gate (red), takes the attack head-on.
    The second gate (green), reduces the power of the attack.
    The third gate (blue) disperses the pressure.

    As powerful as these gates are, they are not invincible, as they were all destroyed by a Tailed Beast Ball from Naruto's four-tailed form, narrowly shielding Orochimaru from it.

    Sword of Kusanagi:Long Sword of Sky
    This is a technique that allows Orochimaru to levitate the Sword of Kusanagi and attack foes at mid-range. The blade will move according to Orochimaru's finger movements. In the anime, the blade emits a bright blue light when it's levitating.

    Temporary Paralysis Technique
    A technique that physically restrains an opponent, as if the opponent had been tied in invisible steel ropes. It debilitates the victim for a short period of time, which allows the user to either strike again, or take the target into custody. This is a D-rank ninjutsu where the intensity will vary greatly according to the user's level of skill. The technique can also be cast on every target at once, depending on the user's skill, and won't fail a shinobi during his missions.

    Twin Snakes Mutual Death Technique
    This forbidden technique is a murder-suicide attack, killing both the user and the target. The user makes a one-handed seal with both their hand and the intended victim's. Two snakes are then summoned from the user's sleeve, biting both their wrists and killing them with deadly venom. When Anko Mitarashi used this technique against Orochimaru, he replaced himself with a clone to avoid harm, leaving Anko unable to finish the technique.

    White Snake Possession
    Orochimaru transfers his consciousness into a small white snake where it slithers into a person's body and enabling Orochimaru to gain control of their body and mind. Similar to the Yamanaka clan technique, Mind Body Switch Technique where the user's original body is left defenceless after taking control of someone's body

    Wind Release:Great Breakthrough
    This is a relatively simple technique that creates a sudden gust of wind, but its scale varies greatly depending on the user. If used by a superior shinobi, it has enough destructive power to knock down a large tree. The wind from the squall can blow away all things in the user's line of sight. A variation of the technique involves a smaller blast of wind which gets ignited with flame.

    Gaara, while in his partial transformation, can infuse this technique with sand and chakra to greatly increase the damage potential.

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    Orochimaru's Weapons/Tools
    Mind Awakening Pill
    The Mind Awakening Pill (醒心丸, Seishingan) is a drug created by Orochimaru to speed up the development of the Cursed Seal to increase the level of the user's Cursed Seal to level 2. However, this will greatly increase the Cursed Seal's contamination speed, killing the user in a few minutes. To allow the user's body to get used to the Cursed Seal Level 2, they have to be sealed within the Four Black Fog Battle Formation. This will reduce the permanent death to a false death state.

    Poisen
    Poisons, toxins and venoms are all poisonous, intoxicating substances - powders, liquids and gases - that can be used by ninja in combat. Poisons come with a variety of effects, ranging from body weakness, paralysis or death.

    Sword Of Kusanaga
    The Kusanagi Sword is the Kusanagi of Japanese legend. Orochimaru retrieves his Kusanagi by opening his mouth and extending a snake which then opens its mouth and produces the sword. Orochimaru was seen producing the sword handle first so he could use it freely, or blade first to attack his opponent instantly.

    The sword can extend its blade to attack from long distances, levitate in the air according to Orochimaru's command, and cut through almost anything. Even Enma, who is able to transform into a diamond-hard staff, stated that the Kusanagi blade could damage him considerably. It should be noted that Orochimaru's Kusanagi could not pierce Naruto Uzumaki's four-tailed form. The sword has been seen transforming into a small snake and returning to Orochimaru.

    After Orochimaru reemerged from Sasuke Uchiha through his Eight Branches Technique, he was sealed by Itachi Uchiha's Sword of Totsuka, the Kusanagi was subsequently sealed with him. As he was brought back via the Evil Releasing Method, the fate of the sword is unknown.

    Kabuto was Never equal to Orochimaru:
    Itachi knew about orochimaru's powers and said to kabuto that dont act like u r orochimaru. u can never b him.

    orochimaru in top ten:
    1. S06P
    2. His Younger Son
    3. His elder Son
    4. Rinnegan tobi
    5. Orochimaru Edo tensei; hashirama + tobirama
     
         
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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Databook disagrees..... j-man>oro also hiruzen> oro

    oro stats


    J-man stats

    Hiruzen stats as a geezer


    also Kabuto did surpass Oro edo dsm and body enhancements

    this is just a bit of what is wrong with this thread.....
     
         
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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Probably is the strongest but why kishi made him so freaking disgusting
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    oro is not in top 10 lol, more like top 15
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Someone likes the Naruto wiki lol...

    I'd agree with that, Jiraiyas definitely a close 2nd though.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Your a bit much bro.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by markdabomb22 View Post
    Databook disagrees..... j-man>oro also hiruzen> oro

    oro stats


    J-man stats


    also Kabuto did surpass Oro edo dsm and body enhancements

    this is just a bit of what is wrong with this thread.....
    Sorry to break it to ya but stats don't mean shit

    We all know for a fact that Itachi is the best genjutsu user, kurenai and her both has 5s in the databook, (for genjutsu obvs) does that mean Itachi = Kurenai in terms of genjutsu ? no.

    Anywho, when Oro gets his stats updated he'll smash Jiraiya's stats for jokes.

    OT: You didn't have to write all that to prove he was the strongest. He was playing with 4 tails naruto, and survived the legendary totsuka blade. I shall speak no further on the matter.
     
         
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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Oro could become the main Protaganist again.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by markdabomb22 View Post
    Databook disagrees..... j-man>oro also hiruzen> oro

    oro stats


    J-man stats

    Hiruzen stats as a geezer


    also Kabuto did surpass Oro edo dsm and body enhancements

    this is just a bit of what is wrong with this thread.....
    See Naruto's stats and then come.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by markdabomb22 View Post
    Databook disagrees..... j-man>oro also hiruzen> oro

    oro stats


    J-man stats

    Hiruzen stats as a geezer


    also Kabuto did surpass Oro edo dsm and body enhancements

    this is just a bit of what is wrong with this thread.....
    Data book stats are crap jiraiya has no talent for genjutsu and has a three. Naruto can not do any genjutsu at all but has a 2 just for being able to release it(though he has never actually accomplished this task)
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    Sorry to break it to ya but stats don't mean shit

    We all know for a fact that Itachi is the best genjutsu user, kurenai and her both has 5s in the databook, (for genjutsu obvs) does that mean Itachi = Kurenai in terms of genjutsu ? no.

    Anywho, when Oro gets his stats updated he'll smash Jiraiya's stats for jokes.

    OT: You didn't have to write all that to prove he was the strongest. He was playing with 4 tails naruto, and survived the legendary totsuka blade. I shall speak no further on the matter.
    i will counter.

    i think jiraiya could beat oro if he wanted. oro has done a lot of things, and we havent seen him fight to his death (properly), so just by what is shown in the manga...jiraiya was/is stronger. why? simple. would oro be able to defeat pain (even one) in the same situation that jiraiya was in? i would think not.

    jiraiya was able to kill one of the pains, while i dont think oro would have even had a chance. what im basically saying is j-man would be stronger in sage mode than oro when/before he died.

    who knows what hidden techniques oro has...but from what we have seen (and i know there is probably a lot more to oro than what was shown), j-man would be the "strongest".
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by kam View Post
    Oro could become the main Protaganist again.
    i agree
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by shk1020 View Post
    i will counter.

    i think jiraiya could beat oro if he wanted. oro has done a lot of things, and we havent seen him fight to his death (properly), so just by what is shown in the manga...jiraiya was/is stronger. why? simple. would oro be able to defeat pain (even one) in the same situation that jiraiya was in? i would think not.

    jiraiya was able to kill one of the pains, while i dont think oro would have even had a chance. what im basically saying is j-man would be stronger in sage mode than oro when/before he died.

    who knows what hidden techniques oro has...but from what we have seen (and i know there is probably a lot more to oro than what was shown), j-man would be the "strongest".
    So... you're basing your whole argument on a battle that oro could never have participated in? , even if he did, we still wouldn't have known who was stronger. You're using ABC logic, it doesn't work in Naruto. poor counter.
     
         

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    Kabuto(snake cloak) said to tobi when they met:" i surpassed my predecessors" he was talking about tobirama and orochimaru. You're talking about orochimaru being weaker than hiruzen and jiraiya, orochimaru was just toying with 4 tails naruto and he still dominated but jiraiya was already down when naruto went 4 tails as a kid when they were training during the pts. Oro surpassed hiruzen during the pts or before their fight imho
     
         

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    Orochimaru samA is the strongest , I like your thread +rep :D
     
         

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    So... you're basing your whole argument on a battle that oro could never have participated in? , even if he did, we still wouldn't have known who was stronger. You're using ABC logic, it doesn't work in Naruto. poor counter.
    yeah i know it sucks. theres not enough info on oro's "max" abilities, so it comes down to a bunch of hypotheticals.
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by ismael View Post
    Kabuto(snake cloak) said to tobi when they met:" i surpassed my predecessors" he was talking about tobirama and orochimaru. You're talking about orochimaru being weaker than hiruzen and jiraiya, orochimaru was just toying with 4 tails naruto and he still dominated but jiraiya was already down when naruto went 4 tails as a kid when they were training during the pts. Oro surpassed hiruzen during the pts or before their fight imho
    i wish we couldve seen that fight (4tails vs j-man). but you do have a point. oro had his hands sealed and was just playing around.

    who knows, maybe even j-man was as well, but he didnt have that super-tank-defense technique.
     
         

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    Oro is not top 10 lol he fled from 4 tails Naruto and got revived by sasuke through anko's curse mark..also kabuto DSM >>>> oro.
     
         

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    At the end of the day, orochimaru was playing around with 4 tails naruto and jiraiya nearly got killed by it. need i say more?
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Rike Senju View Post
    Oro is not top 10 lol he fled from 4 tails Naruto and got revived by sasuke through anko's curse mark..also kabuto DSM >>>> oro.
    oro didnt flee from 4tails, he had his hands sealed and was still able to keep up with it. he even had the 4-tails pinned down for a bit before yamato interfered.

    btw, is DSM = dragon sage mode or something else?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    At the end of the day, orochimaru was playing around with 4 tails naruto and jiraiya nearly got killed by it. need i say more?
    as i said above, yamato interfered before the fight was over. 4tails was pinned down, but we dont know how it wouldve ended. the 4-tails moved the long sword pretty easily from oro if you recall.
     
         

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    Logic, how did you get the leaf headband on top of your avatar ?
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by ismael View Post
    Sorry but oro being weak is an opinion
    :shrug: you 2 are just haters :mad::sy:
    lol im a hater for being a fan of orochimaru? no its called knowing the truth, jiriya is stronger, if orochimaru was stronger than j-man why did itachi punk him to leave akakatuski? ahhahaha and when he encounter jiriya with kisame itachi didnt want to fight due to his strength thus i rest my case
     
         

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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

    using the four tails argument isnt very good

    orochimaru was going for the kill, jiraiya would never try to hurt naruto even if he was in kyuubi form, all he did was try to suppress the kyuubi's chakra and in that procees he got hurt.

    Jiraiya had intentionally weakened the seal and the kyuubi took over









    kakashi acted soon due to jiraiya's warning and was saved...
    if kakashi were facing the four tailed form he would have been eaten alive

    tsunade too almost killed jiraiya but does that mean tsunade>jiraiya or tsunade=four tails -_-
     
         
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    Re: Orochimaru's abilities

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    i will counter.

    i think jiraiya could beat oro if he wanted. oro has done a lot of things, and we havent seen him fight to his death (properly), so just by what is shown in the manga...jiraiya was/is stronger. why? simple. would oro be able to defeat pain (even one) in the same situation that jiraiya was in? i would think not.

    jiraiya was able to kill one of the pains, while i dont think oro would have even had a chance. what im basically saying is j-man would be stronger in sage mode than oro when/before he died.

    who knows what hidden techniques oro has...but from what we have seen (and i know there is probably a lot more to oro than what was shown), j-man would be the "strongest".
    How will jiraiya deal with edo tensei?
     
         

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