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    Erzo teaches me Lightning

    * I stand patiently waiting for Erzo-Senpai.*
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Sorry for the spam but may i join in on this training session?
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Hellooooooo!

    Now, tell me all you know about Lightning release, it's weaknesses, strengths, what it can be combined with and whatever else you know about it. Please be as descriptive as you can. :3
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by Erzo View Post
    Hellooooooo!

    Now, tell me all you know about Lightning release, it's weaknesses, strengths, what it can be combined with and whatever else you know about it. Please be as descriptive as you can. :3
    Lightning is one of the main 5 elements. It is very detructive and dangerous. It is weak against wind and stronger when faced with earth. It can be combined with water to amplify its power. It can also be used to improve the sharpness of weapons and it can be conducted or imbued into weapons.
    The known users of Lightning are: (off the top of my head so I might forget some.)
    Sasuke
    Kakashi
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    3rd Raikage
    Darui
    Killer Bee
    Kakuzu
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    Lightning is one of the main 5 elements. It is very detructive and dangerous. It is weak against wind and stronger when faced with earth. It can be combined with water to amplify its power. It can also be used to improve the sharpness of weapons and it can be conducted or imbued into weapons.
    The known users of Lightning are: (off the top of my head so I might forget some.)
    Sasuke
    Kakashi
    A
    3rd Raikage
    Darui
    Killer Bee
    Kakuzu
    I never understood why people did that ''name lightning users'' thing, but thanks anyway.

    Do you know how the weaknesses and strengths work?
    As in what rank of lightning would go through what rank of Earth? Etc etc.

    If yes, please explain it to me, if not then just say so, and I'll explain it to you.
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by Erzo View Post
    I never understood why people did that ''name lightning users'' thing, but thanks anyway.

    Do you know how the weaknesses and strengths work?
    As in what rank of lightning would go through what rank of Earth? Etc etc.

    If yes, please explain it to me, if not then just say so, and I'll explain it to you.
    I think I know. Is it one rank higher than the earth ?
    So the earth has to be one rank higher to cancel the elemental advantage.

    Am I right ?
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    I think I know. Is it one rank higher than the earth ?
    So the earth has to be one rank higher to cancel the elemental advantage.

    Am I right ?
    Indeed you are.

    But just to be more detailed and because I already have this written down from my other Lightning training:

    A-rank Lightning = S-rank Earth.
    A-rank Lightning > A-rank Earth and it'd continue towards the opponent at a weakened rank of B.

    So for an Earth jutsu to cancel out a Lightning jutsu, it must be one rank higher.

    As for weakness:

    A-rank Wind = S-rank Lightning.
    A-rank Wind > A-rank Lightning.

    Lightning is not strong nor weak against Water and Fire, and so, using lightning wouldn't be a valid way of defending against a Fire or water jutsu, since it'd go straight through it. (and the water would get electrocuted, doing you more damage)

    Of course, this doesn't mean Lightning can't be used in a combination with both Fire and Water.
    Can you tell me why it'd be useful to use Lightning along side Fire? Or how it'd be used alongside fire?

    Edit: @President, read this and answer the question written down. ^.^
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I fail oops

    Lightning, is not strong or weak against fire. I don't think you can use a lightning technique in conjunction with fire as fire isn't tangible. You could potentially use a fire style technique to cover the lightning style techniques right. Then the opponent wouldn't see either as fire and lightning are both bright.
     
         
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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I'm not sure but I will try to use a different one to President's answer.
    Lightning attacks can be used to speed up fire attacks because lightning techniques are generally faster.
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentBush View Post
    I fail oops

    Lightning, is not strong or weak against fire. I don't think you can use a lightning technique in conjunction with fire as fire isn't tangible. You could potentially use a fire style technique to cover the lightning style techniques right. Then the opponent wouldn't see either as fire and lightning are both bright.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    I'm not sure but I will try to use a different one to President's answer.
    Lightning attacks can be used to speed up fire attacks because lightning techniques are generally faster.
    President, you were partly right about using the fire style to cover the lightning technique. So basically, you can use a fire jutsu and behind the fire, you'd release a lightning jutsu. Due to the fire your opponent won't see the lightning coming and since Fire is weak to water, they'd most likely use Water to defend and Lightning isn't weak or strong to water but it can electrify it, so you can attempt to catch your opponent off guard like this.

    Alright, now we'll start properly.

    *Makes a small Lightning bolt*

    Now, meditate around the lightning and feel it's energy and brute strength, concentrate on it and try to call out your own lightning chakra and create your own small bolt.
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    * I manipulate my chakra and meditate. I try to concentrate the chakra into Lightning bolt. I feel its strength and its urge to break free. But I manage to control it and maintain a small bolt of lightning in my palm.*
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I sit down and empty my mind, the only thing I visualize is lightning. I picture it's raw power, it's amazing strength. I begin to picture lightning all over my body. It's a stranges sensation, but I let it wash over me, soon I can feel the lightning chakra all over my body. I then begin to focus it into the palm of my hand. Soon, a small spark of lightning is in my palm.

    -Breathless-

    Is this good sempai?
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    * I manipulate my chakra and meditate. I try to concentrate the chakra into Lightning bolt. I feel its strength and its urge to break free. But I manage to control it and maintain a small bolt of lightning in my palm.*
    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentBush View Post
    I sit down and empty my mind, the only thing I visualize is lightning. I picture it's raw power, it's amazing strength. I begin to picture lightning all over my body. It's a stranges sensation, but I let it wash over me, soon I can feel the lightning chakra all over my body. I then begin to focus it into the palm of my hand. Soon, a small spark of lightning is in my palm.

    -Breathless-

    Is this good sempai?
    Both good, Danzo more detail next time.

    Ok, now release it as a quick bolt of lightning.

    After you've done that, I want you to manipulate your lightning chakra further and channel it into your palms, once you've done that, slam your hand down onto the ground and release the chakra, once you've released it into the ground, manipulate it so that it travels into the area beneath my feet and shocks my clone mildly

    Straight after doing that, don't hesitate and and use that same chakra to cover your body. With this you'll have your body covered with an electric field, and with that electric field covering your body, run at my clone and punch/kick him however you like. (Describe this as if it was a freeform fight)

    -Makes 2 clone for each of you-
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I've always been told not to play with electricity but meh

    -I again start to visualize the lightning. I again empty my mind of everything but lightning, I then feel the lightning chakra all over my body. I start to focus it into my palms, eventually I feel it. I then slam my palm into the ground and add more chakra so the lightning travels to your clone and zaps it.-

    For the second jutsu

    -I concentrate, and again feel the lightning over my body. This time I don't focus it into a specific part of my body. I let it wash over my entire body. Eventually I'm surrounded in it, I then run over to your clone and round house kick it in the face. I then start a series of small punches, all while it is being zapped from the lightning over my body.-
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I maintain the electricity in my hand and try to increase its power. It intensifies slightly and I fire it at your clone in the form of a small bolt.

    I then do the same thing and manipulate my chakra and focus on turning it into lightning chakra. I manage to concentrate the lightning into my palms and slam my palms on to the ground. I sense its power dulls as it travels underground but It manages to reach your clone and as it touches its feet it is shocked mildly.

    I use the same Lightning chakra to cover my body and instead of concentrating on one specific area of my body I dull its sharpness to make it more blunt. I then spread this electricity over my body giving me and electric field. I then run at your clone and punch it making and it falls down from the force of the blow.

    That good Senpai ?
     
         
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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentBush View Post
    I've always been told not to play with electricity but meh

    -I again start to visualize the lightning. I again empty my mind of everything but lightning, I then feel the lightning chakra all over my body. I start to focus it into my palms, eventually I feel it. I then slam my palm into the ground and add more chakra so the lightning travels to your clone and zaps it.-

    For the second jutsu

    -I concentrate, and again feel the lightning over my body. This time I don't focus it into a specific part of my body. I let it wash over my entire body. Eventually I'm surrounded in it, I then run over to your clone and round house kick it in the face. I then start a series of small punches, all while it is being zapped from the lightning over my body.-
    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    I maintain the electricity in my hand and try to increase its power. It intensifies slightly and I fire it at your clone in the form of a small bolt.

    I then do the same thing and manipulate my chakra and focus on turning it into lightning chakra. I manage to concentrate the lightning into my palms and slam my palms on to the ground. I sense its power dulls as it travels underground but It manages to reach your clone and as it touches its feet it is shocked mildly.

    I use the same Lightning chakra to cover my body and instead of concentrating on one specific area of my body I dull its sharpness to make it more blunt. I then spread this electricity over my body giving me and electric field. I then run at your clone and punch it making and it falls down from the force of the blow.

    That good Senpai.
    Good job you two.

    Now, concentrate your lightning chakra once again, but gather it all at one point (fist, foot, your choice), making a compressed ball of lightning. Once you've done that, I want you to once again run at my clone and deal a blow to his body whilst releasing that compressed lightning orb making it so that it explodes outwards and damages my clone.

    After doing that, I want you to quickly send another quick bolt of lightning at my clone who would be blown back due to the explosion caused by the first jutsu and the quick bolt which you release after it.

    -Makes 2 clones-
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Ok sempai,

    -I again start to feel the lightning chakra all over my body. I then focus the lightning into my right fist. I then run to your clone and punch it in the face. The lightning chakra then explodes against your clone, then I focus it into my palm again and slam my palm into the ground. Creating an explosion caused by both the second and third hit.-
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I compress my Lightning chakra into an orb and concentrate it into the end of my elbow. I run at your clone and bring my arm up pointing my elbow out at the clone. As my elbow makes contact with the clone I release the compressed orb of electricity and it is blown back by the impact.
    I then charge a small bolt of Lightning in my hand and send it after the clone while the clone is still in the air.
     
         
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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentBush View Post
    Ok sempai,

    -I again start to feel the lightning chakra all over my body. I then focus the lightning into my right fist. I then run to your clone and punch it in the face. The lightning chakra then explodes against your clone, then I focus it into my palm again and slam my palm into the ground. Creating an explosion caused by both the second and third hit.-
    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    I compress my Lightning chakra into an orb and concentrate it into the end of my elbow. I run at your clone and bring my arm up pointing my elbow out at the clone. As my elbow makes contact with the clone I release the compressed orb of electricity and it is blown back by the impact.
    I then charge a small bolt of Lightning in my hand and send it after the clone while the clone is still in the air.
    Goooooood.

    (Raiton no Jutsu) - Lightning Release Technique
    Rank: D
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short - Mid
    Chakra cost: 10
    Damage points: 20
    Description: The user will manipulate their chakra to create small bolts of lightning to attack their target.[/B]

    (Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
    Rank: D
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short
    Chakra cost: 10
    Damage points: 20
    Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.

    (Raiton: Raijingu Sanda) - Lightning Style: Raging Thunder
    Rank: D
    Type: Attack
    Range: Short
    Chakra cost: 10
    Damage Points: 20
    Description: The user hits the opponent with an electric field shield that covers the users body.

    (Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
    Rank: D
    Type: Attack
    Range:Short
    Chakra cost: 10
    Damage Points: 20
    Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.

    (Ration: Ikazuchi Kashou) - Lightning Release: Thunder Burn
    Rank: D
    Type: Offensive
    Range: Short
    Chakra cost: 10
    Damage points: 20
    Description: The user fires a wave of lightning bolts at the opponent.


    Now for the next jutsu, just do what I asked you earlier (the shooting out bolts of lightning from your hand) but I want you to gather a larger amount of chakra and release it as bolts of lightning, so that the jutsu does more damage. You can use this jutsu to simply to shock an opponent or to send a powerful stream of lightning which is capable of ripping through solid rock.

    We'll do this as if we're in a battle, so I want you first send a powerful surge of lightning which rips through my first attack, then once you've done that, I want you to create an orb of Lightning on your hand (like earlier) but instead of smashing it into me, I want you to throw it, so that it can reach a further distance.

    Let's give this a go.

    -Makes 2 clones-

    *Both clones quickly slam their hand down on to the ground and makes the surrounding rocks rise up and be sent flying towards you guys, as a B-ranked Earth jutsu.. the clones then begins to run in an arc.* (Throw the orb of lightning once you see them running)

    Both of you should be spaced out so you have space to do this, without getting in each others way.
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    -Ok, I do exactly as before. This time though I focus more chakra into my hands. As the earth is coming towards me, I fire the lightning and it rips through the stone. Next, I focus more lightning into my hands. This time I throw it, and it hits your clone.-
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I focus the chakra in my hands and build up the electricity. As the separate rocks come to me I unleash the electricity and it destroys the rocks. As I see your clone coming at me in an arc I charge more chakra and manipulate my electricity and launch it at the clone
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

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    -Ok, I do exactly as before. This time though I focus more chakra into my hands. As the earth is coming towards me, I fire the lightning and it rips through the stone. Next, I focus more lightning into my hands. This time I throw it, and it hits your clone.-
    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    I focus the chakra in my hands and build up the electricity. As the separate rocks come to me I unleash the electricity and it destroys the rocks. As I see your clone coming at me in an arc I charge more chakra and manipulate my electricity and launch it at the clone
    *You rip through the Earth but the lightning ball thrown at me doesn't reach*



    Try again, add more chakra, compress the ball of lightning and make sure it can stay compact until it reaches me.
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    -This time, I add as much raiton chakra as possible to my hands and focus it into a ball form. When it is in the form of a ball, I throw it. When it's being thrown, I focus on keeping it compact, and when it reaches your clone, it zaps him with lightning.-

    How's that?
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    I manipulate my lightning chakra and strengthen the ball of electricity. The ball shines brightly and I stabilize its power and keep it compressed. I throw it at you and as it weakens again while flying at your clone I increase its density and it manages to stay compact and hits your clone.
     
         

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    Re: Erzo teaches me Lightning

    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentBush View Post
    -This time, I add as much raiton chakra as possible to my hands and focus it into a ball form. When it is in the form of a ball, I throw it. When it's being thrown, I focus on keeping it compact, and when it reaches your clone, it zaps him with lightning.-

    How's that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    I manipulate my lightning chakra and strengthen the ball of electricity. The ball shines brightly and I stabilize its power and keep it compressed. I throw it at you and as it weakens again while flying at your clone I increase its density and it manages to stay compact and hits your clone.
    (Raiton: Jibashi) - Lightning Release: Electromagnetic Murder
    Rank: C
    Type: Offense
    Range: Short
    Chakra Cost: 15
    Damage Points: 30 (+5 if used in conjunction with a water jutsu)
    Description: This jutsu allows the user to create a wave of electricity from the user's hands. This jutsu can vary in power from a small surge to shock an opponent to a powerful stream of lightning capable of ripping through solid rock. It is ideal to use in conjunction with a water jutsu.

    (Raiton: Raikyu) - Lightning Release: Lightning Ball
    Rank: C
    Type: Offense
    Range: Short/Mid
    Chakra Cost: 15
    Damage Points: 30
    Description: By gathering chakra in their hands, the user can create a ball of electrical energy and launch it at the enemy.


    Now, this is (once again) similar to another jutsu we've already done, so I want you to surround your body with an electric field which acts as a defensive measure, protecting you from B-ranked and below Earth jutsus (depends on which jutsus, since some are not full on attacks), so I'll use spikes against you and see if you can protect yourself by covering every inch of your body in an armour of electricity.

    -Uses Spikes on the area below you-
     
         

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