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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    urahara kno more about byakuya sword than byakuya knos about his I Dout it big time.Sence he never really seen byakuya fight same goes for byakuya.

    Yoroichi has trained with byakuya for a while an seen wat he can do unlike urahara an her wrapping that bandage around his sword did not stop his shikai he stopped it hiself cuz some one interfered an he wanted to see who it was.

    That gigai ain't nonthing this ain't yam my he's fighting.

    Last thing u said made no sence when isshin first got there aizen was not as strong as when urahara arrived I believe he was playing around wit isshin in the first place.
    So your saying Byakuya knows more about Urahara's Zanpaktou even though he had his before Byakuya's also I think Urahara will have seen Byakuya battle since he is a scientist and would of found a way to see battles Byakuya has or Yourichi would have informed him.

    her wrapping that bandage around his sword did not stop his shikai he stopped it hiself cuz some one interfered an he wanted to see who it was.

    ^^^^^^^^

    That is never confirmed unless you can prove to me that was the reason then I'm not going to really believe you.

    Also the Gigai was able to fool Aizen so why would it not be able to fool Byakuya who is no where near as smart as Aizen.

    The last comment was more of a point TBH.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    urahara mid diff even with shikai, hes to fast, strong, smart and good with swords and kido for byakuya
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    Yoruichi never trained with Byakuya. She teased him and toyed with him. What makes you think Byakuya had his Bankai back then? You do nothing but generate completely ridiculous assumptions. Nothing you use in your arguments have any merit at all.




    Yup, I'm the stupid one because I say Urahara defeats Byakuya.

    You can say what you want dunce because it doesn't change anything.
    Urahara and Yoruichi are on the same level as the Vizards and the Veterans minus Yama and Uno.
    Byakuya is an average tier Captain in comaprison along with Kenpachi and Hitsugaya.
    Yoroichi never trained him so wer do u think he learns the blac ops step move from O yea that's right yoroichi.

    Yoroichi an urahara is on the same level I think not urahara is stronger than her just letting u kno that she needs to train more...

    First off u think byakuya an kenpachi r avarege level captians there stronger than Wat u think ...byakuya sword has 4 levels an most likely gotten stronger sence the aizen arc..an as for kenpachi he don't even kno his sword name well he probly do at the monent so yea there not ur avarege level captains.

    There no way to tell who will win really cuz we have not seen their full power but if I had to pick a winner I will say byakuya untill urahara shows me more
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    urahara mid diff even with shikai, hes to fast, strong, smart and good with swords and kido for byakuya
    He's not as fast as ichigo so yea he's not fast enough.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Urahara is faster than Byakuya.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Yoroichi never trained him so wer do u think he learns the blac ops step move from O yea that's right yoroichi.

    Yoroichi an urahara is on the same level I think not urahara is stronger than her just letting u kno that she needs to train more...

    First off u think byakuya an kenpachi r avarege level captians there stronger than Wat u think ...byakuya sword has 4 levels an most likely gotten stronger sence the aizen arc..an as for kenpachi he don't even kno his sword name well he probly do at the monent so yea there not ur avarege level captains.

    There no way to tell who will win really cuz we have not seen their full power but if I had to pick a winner I will say byakuya untill urahara shows me more
    Your attention span is that of a fish. You're already straying off my main points.

    Yoruichi left before Byakuya was even in the Gotei 13. She left when Byakuya was a kid. So how exactly are you assuming that she knows a shred about Byakuya's Bankai? The second you realize that you can't counter someone's point you just drift onto something else and try to change the topic.

    Urahara and Yoruichi are portrayed as being life-long friends since childhood and as equals. If you can't understand this the you honestly are a child that can't read between the lines. In fact, Urahara was Yoruichi's 3rd seat before being promoted as Captain so where exactly are you getting this assumption that Yoruichi is weaker than he is? On top of this who knows how long Yoruichi was a Captain prior to her departure. Have we even seen Yoruichi use her zanpaktou, ever? Whether she's a hand-to-hand specialist means nothing. All Shinigami's zanpaktou's are a representation of their existing fighting styles and complement them. Her zanpaktou can only help her. This is a fact. The fact that Kubo has yet to put her up against someone where she's been pushed to using it shows how strong she is.

    Do you even know what the word "average" means? What grade do they start teaching vocabulary? The word "average" is relative, and yes, Byakuya and Kenpachi are average tier Captains with the return of the Vizards. Not that I expect you to have the competence to understand this.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    Yoruichi never trained with Byakuya. She teased him and toyed with him. What makes you think Byakuya had his Bankai back then? You do nothing but generate completely ridiculous assumptions. Nothing you use in your arguments have any merit at all.




    Yup, I'm the stupid one because I say Urahara defeats Byakuya.

    You can say what you want dunce because it doesn't change anything.
    Urahara and Yoruichi are on the same level as the Vizards and the Veterans minus Yama and Uno.
    Byakuya is an average tier Captain in comaprison along with Kenpachi and Hitsugaya.
    i know its completly of topic but i reckon he is easily above unohana and the veteran and vizard captains
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    Your attention span is that of a fish. You're already straying off my main points.

    Yoruichi left before Byakuya was even in the Gotei 13. She left when Byakuya was a kid. So how exactly are you assuming that she knows a shred about Byakuya's Bankai? The second you realize that you can't counter someone's point you just drift onto something else and try to change the topic.

    Urahara and Yoruichi are portrayed as being life-long friends since childhood and as equals. If you can't understand this the you honestly are a child that can't read between the lines. In fact, Urahara was Yoruichi's 3rd seat before being promoted as Captain so where exactly are you getting this assumption that Yoruichi is weaker than he is? On top of this who knows how long Yoruichi was a Captain prior to her departure. Have we even seen Yoruichi use her zanpaktou, ever? Whether she's a hand-to-hand specialist means nothing. All Shinigami's zanpaktou's are a representation of their existing fighting styles and complement them. Her zanpaktou can only help her. This is a fact. The fact that Kubo has yet to put her up against someone where she's been pushed to using it shows how strong she is.

    Do you even know what the word "average" means? What grade do they start teaching vocabulary? The word "average" is relative, and yes, Byakuya and Kenpachi are average tier Captains with the return of the Vizards. Not that I expect you to have the competence to understand this.
    She trained byakuya she most likely seen his shikai never said she knew his bankai but she knos more than urahara does.she Probly knos more about his fighting style as well.

    Yoroichi an urahara equals wer does it say that at please show me?...she has no sword that we kno of an that puts her under urahara at the moment. I'm a fan of yoroichi she just not there yet hav to wait an see her in this final arc..she has not fought anybody worth useing her sword on I guess aizen was just to weak for her than

    only captain that's not avarege is yamamoto
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Yoroichi an urahara equals wer does it say that at please show me?...
    Read my post again. This time read slowly.

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    she has no sword that we kno of an that puts her under urahara at the moment.
    This proves you don't even know the simple basics of Bleach.

    Her zanpaktou can be seen here:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-584-10/...apter-130.html
    She just simply chooses not to use it since she prefers hand-to-hand combat like Soi Fong

    All Shinigami possess a zanpaktou. It's a manifestation of their soul. There cannot exist a Shinigami without a zanpaktou. The attaining of a zanpaktou is, for all intents and purposes, the definition of what a Shinigami is with the exception of Arrancars.


    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    she has not fought anybody worth useing her sword on I guess aizen was just to weak for her than
    Why didn't Kenpachi use two hands against Ichigo?
    Why didn't Shinji use Bankai against Aizen?
    Why didn't Yamamoto kill Buckbeard?

    The answer is simple. Because Kubo didn't want them to for the sake of story progression. Yoruichi not using her zanpaktou means nothing. It only means that's another ace up her sleeve for which Kubo can work with.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    the only way u can find the no damage zone is to get close enough to byakuya to notice the petals r not protecting him thats not really a weakness to him no way.

    i like yoroichi but is she really that fast an how did she become captian anyway who knos...but i dont kno if she is faster than byakuya all he talks about is his speed hes fast an hes still able to move fast on 1 leg as seen fighting the espada.

    byakuya been alive for to long to not kno about all kido chants an stuff like dat.
    Damn this thread is still on?
    @ le bold : says who? To even think byakuya been defenseless is not a weak point ?
    Yoruichi is faster, it was proven in the anime/manga and she was faster lol she was even carrying ichigo when he bested him using speed.
    Byakuya knows kidous but not as much urahara
    In terms of kido
    Urahara >>>>byakuya
    :ice:
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by iMicLykTyson View Post
    Damn this thread is still on?
    @ le bold : says who? To even think byakuya been defenseless is not a weak point ?
    Yoruichi is faster, it was proven in the anime/manga and she was faster lol she was even carrying ichigo when he bested him using speed.
    Byakugan knows kidous but not as much urahara
    In terms of kido
    Urahara >>>>byakuya
    :ice:
    I second this.

    Who says the only way to find Byakuya's No Damage Zone is to get in close? Urahara's level of intellect is unrivaled. There's no reason to assume that Urahara couldn't deduce it on his own just by observing the mechanics of Senbonzakura Kageyoshi itself.

    You honestly don't think Yoruichi is faster than Byakuya? Yoruichi outran Byakuya with ease. She said flatout that Byakuya is not on the level of catching her yet who is proclaimed as the "Goddess of Flash":
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-572-19/...apter-118.html

    She tells Byakuya to chase after her if he wants, but that he won't catch her. The mere fact that Byakuya didn't even try proves that she's faster than he is and he knows it.

    Yoruichi is thee fastest person in the Bleach universe with maybe Yamamoto as an exception.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Holy crap...I had no clue this thread was still going lol
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    i dont see how this thread is still going. urahara would win this without a doubt only an idiot would say otherwise. urahara is a master of every shinigami battle practice, kido, hakuda, zanjustsu, shunpo and hes a genius. byakuya is actually not that strong. ichigo with just bankai was able to keep up with him and dodge his attacks, now ichigo couldnt keep up with aizen where as urahara was able to fight on par with him until he went op Chrysilis (dont know how to spell it) mode this proves that urahara speed> a very much inproved from when he fought byakuya, ichigo speed, which means that urahara speed>byakuya speed. now to hakuda this is easy as byakuya has next to no training that we know of and urahara is a master of it as he was a high ranking member of the 2nd divion in the past. kido isnt really much of a contest, urahara easy. physical strength, meh cant really say, although urahara was able to crush stones and shit when training ichigo but i dunno. so urahara>byakuya in every field of battle and with a massivly superior intellect to rap it all up i really dont see this going any other way than an urahara victory.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    Read my post again. This time read slowly.



    This proves you don't even know the simple basics of Bleach.

    Her zanpaktou can be seen here:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-584-10/...apter-130.html
    She just simply chooses not to use it since she prefers hand-to-hand combat like Soi Fong

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    Why didn't Kenpachi use two hands against Ichigo?
    Why didn't Shinji use Bankai against Aizen?
    Why didn't Yamamoto kill Buckbeard?

    The answer is simple. Because Kubo didn't want them to for the sake of story progression. Yoruichi not using her zanpaktou means nothing. It only means that's another ace up her sleeve for which Kubo can work with.
    Like I said no wer in manga does it say yoroichi an urahara r equal ur word means nonthing.

    Yea that sword she has I seen that in a flash bac wit her an soi fon it don't do anything she Probly just like kenpachi an has no idea Wat it's name is the reason I said she ha no sword is cuz that thing has not been seen in awhile.beven soi fon use he sword so Wat u saying.

    Y didn't kenpachi use two hands that's simple he does not like doing that...y didn't shinji use bankai cuz he wanted to use shikai he thought that was enough u can tell he thought he had aizen beat plus ichigo came an took over an started fighting..y didn't Yamamoto kill that 1 guy kubo will tell us in rhe future .
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    Damn this thread is still on?
    @ le bold : says who? To even think byakuya been defenseless is not a weak point ?
    Yoruichi is faster, it was proven in the anime/manga and she was faster lol she was even carrying ichigo when he bested him using speed.
    Byakuya knows kidous but not as much urahara
    In terms of kido
    Urahara >>>>byakuya
    :ice:
    Ichigo body weight means nonthing to her they r not human they are strong she stood on top of byakuya arm an it was like he did not even have troble supporting her weight an she did not best him he just gave up he don't like to just chase people that's Wat kids do.

    Kido don't mean shit byakuya is well protected he not worrying bout no kido
     
         

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    I second this.

    Who says the only way to find Byakuya's No Damage Zone is to get in close? Urahara's level of intellect is unrivaled. There's no reason to assume that Urahara couldn't deduce it on his own just by observing the mechanics of Senbonzakura Kageyoshi itself.

    You honestly don't think Yoruichi is faster than Byakuya? Yoruichi outran Byakuya with ease. She said flatout that Byakuya is not on the level of catching her yet who is proclaimed as the "Goddess of Flash":
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-572-19/...apter-118.html

    She tells Byakuya to chase after her if he wants, but that he won't catch her. The mere fact that Byakuya didn't even try proves that she's faster than he is and he knows it.

    Yoruichi is thee fastest person in the Bleach universe with maybe Yamamoto as an exception.
    no u have to get close to tell there is no other way to find out please stop talkin stupid.

    ichigo is the fastest person in bleach like I said stop talking stupid

    Byakuya does not chase people around he did not even care bout ichigo or her or if they got away thats y he let them go get ur facts straight.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    no u have to get close to tell there is no other way to find out please stop talkin stupid.

    ichigo is the fastest person in bleach like I said stop talking stupid

    Byakuya does not chase people around he did not even care bout ichigo or her or if they got away thats y he let them go get ur facts straight.
    Ichigo is one of the fastest but I don't think he is the fastest... yet.

    Actually your wrong...again, anyway Byakuya did care about Ichigo and Yourichi since they where criminals in Soul Society and Byakuya wanted them both dead, it was just that Yourichi was faster than Byakuya considering as well she was carrying Ichigo.

    Stop stating information you have no idea what you are talking about it's clear your a Byakuya fan since you have his picture and even his quotes on your page but don't defend somone using your own facts over the actual genuine facts.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    no u have to get close to tell there is no other way to find out please stop talkin stupid.

    ichigo is the fastest person in bleach like I said stop talking stupid

    Byakuya does not chase people around he did not even care bout ichigo or her or if they got away thats y he let them go get ur facts straight.
    fastest character what a joke didn't u see Aizen teleport when he has the hoguoku infused within him if u are unsure of what I am saying go and watch the ichigov Aizen fight
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Kenpachi solos them both >_>
     
         

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    Kenpachi solos them both >_>
    nope he wont...
     
         

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    Ichigo is one of the fastest but I don't think he is the fastest... yet.

    Actually your wrong...again, anyway Byakuya did care about Ichigo and Yourichi since they where criminals in Soul Society and Byakuya wanted them both dead, it was just that Yourichi was faster than Byakuya considering as well she was carrying Ichigo.

    Stop stating information you have no idea what you are talking about it's clear your a Byakuya fan since you have his picture and even his quotes on your page but don't defend somone using your own facts over the actual genuine facts.
    I'm pretty sure byakuya himself said he did not care for them anymore read the manga an stop talking stupid.
     
         

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    fastest character what a joke didn't u see Aizen teleport when he has the hoguoku infused within him if u are unsure of what I am saying go and watch the ichigov Aizen fight
    Yea an Once he gained final getsuga tensho aizen speed was not on his level now was it?
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    Yea an Once he gained final getsuga tensho aizen speed was not on his level now was it?
    Can ichigo teleport ?
     
         

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    Can ichigo teleport ?
    Did not need to that was useless he was still faster than aizen
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by Rand al'Thor View Post
    nope he wont...
    Yes, he will.

    Tite stated that his power is actually beyond anyone in Bleach, and thats why Aizen attacked Soul Society when Kenpachi wasn't there.

    Also, Kenpachi uses his eyepatch to reduce his power equal to his opponent, so he won't get bored of fighting. If he wouldn't do that, he would easily kill anyone in Bleach, even the Soul King.

    Those are all facts.
     
         

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