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    The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chakra

    Here's what I found on Net:-----
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    link:-The Truth About the Kyuubi's Sealed Chakra and Naruto's "That" Jutsu - Naruto Forums

    STATUATORY WARNING:-It is way too long..................
    Edited to fit current scenario...........Please tell me if my editing(though very small), is wrong..............
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    We all know that although the seals that were made by the Shinigami variation that Sarutobi used, and the Shinigami variation that Minato used.. are still the SAME jutsu.. they involve the same process... but DIFFERENT ways on how it was performed by Minato and Sarutobi, respectively. In a sense, the jutsu is a Kami Fuujin Jutsu [God Sealing Jutsu] a level of Fuujin jutsu so powerful, that it requires a GOD to perform and a sacrifice. I am pretty sure its clearly stated, that Sarutobi just about uses the same jutsu. Take a look into the scenarios... I will start with Sarutobi's...

    Sarutobi
    Faced off against an opposition he cannot defeat, and wanting to end the idea of having Nidaime and Shodaime ever hurt Konoha again along with Orochimaru. He uses the ultimate sealing jutsu that he knows. This jutsu, causes the user to go into the belly of the Death God and any other souls that are ingested in the process. The Nidaime and Shodaime souls were pulled out, and placed into Kage Bunshin. That being apart of his chakra now, they were both eaten in the process along with Orochimaru's arms. Sarutobi died, and had a new seal upon his body that was similar to Naruto's.


    Minato
    Faced off against an opponent, nobody could ever dream of defeating he figured of using the most powerful Fuuin jutsu he could harness. A jutsu that was developed in case this kind of scenario would happen. Instead of, the Shinigami reaching through a clone of Minato... it reached through Naruto. But, for this sealing it was a variation of the first seal. The combination of seals... the Double 4-Symbol Sealing Technique seals the Kyuubi into Naruto's system and prevents it to escape. The seal forms the 8-Trigram Hakke Sealing Style allows Naruto to tap into the Kyuubi Chakra making Naruto's body an ultimate chakra machine. However, there is a weakness with this seal as it can be weakened eventually. Its a possibility that the Kyuubi could break the seal over time, and manage to find his way back into the world.


    The Final Sealing:


    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/god_ov_fury/P-9.jpg





    Minato used the SAME jutsu that the 3rd used against Oro, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal. The 3rd himself CONFIRMS it.


    The Kyuubi is to be killed ONE WAY, by sealing it in a newborn and that jinchuuriki (human sacrifice) dying. Now, when we say the SAME jutsu it doesnt necessarily mean that Minato and Sarutobi did the same STYLE of sealing. So the question is, HOW did the Kyuubi ended up being sealed INSIDE Naruto instead of being consumed by the Death God?


    How did Minato do it? What exactly happened ?



    Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang

    Here's how Minato did it:

    1. He summons the Death God invoking it's power

    2. The arm of the Death God reaches through Naruto's body

    3. Death God pulls the Kyuubi towards Naruto's body.




    The 8-Trigram Sealing Technique ( Hakke Sealing Style )
    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i7..._ch091_p11.jpg




    4. Minato divides the chakra into Yin and Yang, sealing the Yin chakra inside the Death God, and the Yang chakra inside Naruto. He uses the Double 4-Symbol sealing jutsu to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto, forming the 8-trigram Hakke sealing style, allowing some of the Kyuubi's chakra to mix with the kid's chakra.

    Minato splitted the Kyuubi chakra into Yin and Yang so that the Death God would have the 'shadow' (Yin), and Naruto would have the 'light' (Yang). He did this for two reasons: (1) to seal the Yin chakra of the Kyuubi inside the Death God's belly, leaving the Yang chakra to be sealed inside Naruto, AND (2) to leave his son and his village a powerful weapon.


    5. Death God pulls his arm out of Naruto, leaving a spiral symbol on Naruto's stomach, which looks exactly the same as the spiral which appeared on the Third's stomach after performing the technique


    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/god_ov_fury/P-10.jpg





    6. Since the jutsu requires the soul of the user, the Death God consumes Minato's soul in the process.

    7. Kyuubi is sealed and Minato dies.



    The Mystery of Minato's Death: What Really Happened

    This is the mystery surrounding Minato's death. We all know how Sarutobi did it, but didn't saw Minato do it. Since Sarutobi says Minato used the SAME technique in sealing the Kyuubi, i have came up with this detailed explanation on how he performed the Shiki Fuujin no jutsu.

    Simply said, Minato probably was FIGHTING MADARA and Naruto was being born when Kyuubi attacked. Konoha ninjas tried desperately to stand their ground, until Minato comes.


    Minato defeats Madara but Madara escaped(We can say, even if 4th said, Tobi saw through his moves). Minato heads out to Kyuubi, summons Gamabunta, and takes his chakra-filled ass for a ride. Now, knowing his son was soon to be born, and knowing he had no time and that he had to seal Kyuubi in a child that was just born or not born yet, he has Gamabunta or some one else take his child. He puts Kyuubi in his kid just after the cord was cut, and then places the Double 4-Symbol seal forming the 8-Trigram Hakke seal on him with the last of his life and chakra. He dies after sealing the Kyuubi, as did the woman who died through grief of her loss and the stress all at once. The baby has no name, but a swirl on his stomach. Naruto, if im not wrong, means spiral, or swirl. And theres also an ingredient in Ramen named that? Jiraiya's main character in his book is named Naruto, and before the child was born his parents agreed to name him after Jiraiya's main character in his novel. Maybe Minato liked Ramen a lot too, and in honor of Minato's will, and the things Minato loved, they named him Naruto.


    Minato's Power and His Legacy

    Now, people may get iffy about... how did Minato have that much chakra to spare... as Sarutobi didn't. Minato, we dunno how much chakra he had. However, at this point the only thing he knew with that battle is... he summoned Gamabunta. That does take an enormous amount of chakra, but that is a lot more chakra than Sarutobi had during his point he used his jutsu. I mean, Sarutobi had been battling and using up his chakra against Oro [Shuriken Kage Bunshin, Katon: Karyuu Endan (Fire Dragon Napalm), Doton: Doryuu-Heki (Mudslide Barrier), Ninpou: Kuchiyose No Jutsu] And after all that, he split his chakra into thirds. Him, and his two kage bunshin each having a third of his current chakra. And that was enough of a sacrifice, to get the souls of the Shodaime and Nidaime out with no problem.. but he did not have the power to subdue Orochimaru entirely... now, if one third of Sarutobi's chakra after all of that was enough to seal Two Kage Level individuals whom have a great deal of chakra.. and the arms of a Sannin... Think how much chakra would be needed to extract the Kyuubi? Minato himself could.. hold back the Kyuubi's power, thats a great wealth of power in itself.


    The Shiki Fuujin Jutsu, the one that both Sarutobi and Minato used is a God Sealing Jutsu. Just like how there are individuals whom have specific jutsu relating to their summons. We have seen jutsus that are involve with the summons already, I dont see why it would be far fetched to have a jutsu that is pretty much already explained. Dealing with the Shinigami extracting a soul, and sealing the soul, at the cost of the users life. How do they knew it will work? Cause they can summon that creature, they have a pact with that creature. When you have a pact with that creature, you most likely have some form of communication with them at some point whether it be spiritually or physically. Like selling your soul to the devil to get the one thing you desire, this thing being.. the sealing of the Kyuubi to create a potential tool that will be Konoha's greatest asset.
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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    the 'theory' is basically telling us what we already know... there's no new revelation here...
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    only read up to
    "Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang

    Here's how Minato did it:

    1. He summons the Death God invoking it's power

    2. The arm of the Death God reaches through Naruto's body

    3. Death God pulls the Kyuubi towards Naruto's body.
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    so ur saying minato has the nine tails calm while a baby is near by?

    i think he mustve trapped it somehow first (still wants to give his life up)THEN yin yang w/e...too many holes in naruto now
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    the 'theory' is basically telling us what we already know... there's no new revelation here...
    I know.......I just posted it bcoz it was good read........
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    and another reason y the 3rd could not seal oro all the way is becasue he had a sword in his back
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    Quote Originally Posted by culinaryg View Post
    only read up to
    "Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang

    Here's how Minato did it:

    1. He summons the Death God invoking it's power

    2. The arm of the Death God reaches through Naruto's body

    3. Death God pulls the Kyuubi towards Naruto's body.
    "

    so ur saying minato has the nine tails calm while a baby is near by?

    i think he mustve trapped it somehow first (still wants to give his life up)THEN yin yang w/e...too many holes in naruto now
    Agreed........Even I thought dat.........

    Talking abt holes in Naruto Series....U R right..........Even Naruto-Minato conversation doen't tell us much...........Only one thing was clear i.e. Itachi was right about Madara/Tobi with Kyuubi attacking Konoha..........
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    Quote Originally Posted by cryhwks View Post
    and another reason y the 3rd could not seal oro all the way is becasue he had a sword in his back
    right. but if u read dat chapter once again........U will know dat, Using KBs and old age already had done damage to his Chakra Reserves........
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    wasnt the light half given to naruto and the dark half seal within him
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    either was good work for writing all that out must of took long tho
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    SSJ4Naruto - Don't take the theories if you aren't willing to defend them!!! I'll do this once FOR you not necessarily because I believe in the theory but because that's what Kisoisenko would do. -.-"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    the 'theory' is basically telling us what we already know... there's no new revelation here...
    Wrong. This theory says that Naruto contains both Kyuubi's yang and his yin chakra. Until now we thought it was only the yang chakra. As said by Jiraya in chapter 370 p. 13

    Quote Originally Posted by culinaryg View Post
    so ur saying minato has the nine tails calm while a baby is near by?

    i think he mustve trapped it somehow first (still wants to give his life up)THEN yin yang w/e...too many holes in naruto now
    Nope, Minato simply started ripping out the ninetail's "soul" as Sarutobi did with Orochimaru. And while you're tearing out the soul the body can't utilize jutsus. link
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmashine View Post

    Wrong. This theory says that Naruto contains both Kyuubi's yang and his yin chakra. Until now we thought it was only the yang chakra. As said by Jiraya in chapter 370 p. 13
    Maybe I'm missing something. Please show me the statement where SSJ4Naruto says Naruto has both of Kyuubi's Yin and Yang. The use of the word 'Yin' is only mentioned 6 times ( I used the word find function) and in all of the uses of the word, there is no accompanying statement that says Naruto also has the Yin part of the Kyuubi's chakra.

    SSJNaruto states that the yin and yang were separated and continue to stay separated.

    All instances of the use of the word 'Yin' in this thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang

    Here's how Minato did it:

    1. He summons the Death God invoking it's power

    2. The arm of the Death God reaches through Naruto's body

    3. Death God pulls the Kyuubi towards Naruto's body.

    4. Minato divides the chakra into Yin and Yang, sealing the Yin chakra inside the Death God, and the Yang chakra inside Naruto. He uses the Double 4-Symbol sealing jutsu to seal the Kyuubi inside Naruto, forming the 8-trigram Hakke sealing style, allowing some of the Kyuubi's chakra to mix with the kid's chakra.

    Minato splitted the Kyuubi chakra into Yin and Yang so that the Death God would have the 'shadow' (Yin), and Naruto would have the 'light' (Yang). He did this for two reasons: (1) to seal the Yin chakra of the Kyuubi inside the Death God's belly, leaving the Yang chakra to be sealed inside Naruto, AND (2) to leave his son and his village a powerful weapon.
    Like I said, all these uses of the word 'Yin' (the chakra that is supposedly sealed with the Death God), is not accompanied by any statement that even hints that Naruto has it. Thus, this thread contains no new revelations.
     
         
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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    the yin chakra is in naruto but is blocked off so naruto can't access it
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmashine View Post
    SSJ4Naruto - Don't take the theories if you aren't willing to defend them!!! I'll do this once FOR you not necessarily because I believe in the theory but because that's what Kisoisenko would do. -.-"


    Wrong. This theory says that Naruto contains both Kyuubi's yang and his yin chakra. Until now we thought it was only the yang chakra. As said by Jiraya in chapter 370 p. 13



    Nope, Minato simply started ripping out the ninetail's "soul" as Sarutobi did with Orochimaru. And while you're tearing out the soul the body can't utilize jutsus. link
    thnx dude!!!!!!!!!to defend my post..........I can't defend my own post only b'coz, I don't have much time to do it........Though I log in frequently, I can stay online only for some 5-6 minutes.....I have to do my job as a Software Engineer................I can't waste my time on this blog/FORUM(pls. take note dat I love to express my opinion/thoughts on MANGA and Anime......)
     
         

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    Re: The Truth About Minato's Shiki Fuujin No Jutsu and the Kyuubi's Yin and Yang Chak

    nice theory dude...
     
         

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