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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    Hello evryone........I liked the theory..Thanx Chakra-san to post dat theory...But when i was looking up one onemanga forums I came across this theory which seems better to me. Here is the link:-



    Please reply.............
    i agree with this theory slightly more than the original one posted on this thread but both make sense
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    I think it's worth to note that Sasuke's kusenagi sword is completely straight. If it builds up to a final battle and Naruto has to use this "power" that Itachi gave him to counter Sasuke, then the contrast between a straight and an arced blade with the latter being the countering factor makes perfect sense.

    Y'all might still be overthinking things though.. even tho Kishi has proven to draw quite some things out of old history the symbolic might not go that deep.

    Thanks a lot tho, was a great and nevertheless a believable theory. Repz for joo.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Sorry... but this person is way off...


    Yes, his thought process is right now target... but that "little crow" ... is Sasuke...

    NOT some gift Itachi gave to Naruto...

    The theory is historically accurate, but the person is directing the theory in the wrong direction...

    Use all that "theory" knowledge and point it at Sasuke directly,.... and it makes 1000% more sense....
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    I read the other theory and that one sounds better, i mean naruto has learned alot of new techniques and if he gets a sword then the manga will be much longer because as we all know he isnt the most graceful of ninja and a sword would be very new to him and off again he goes to train (with the 8Tails possibly) whatever. The 3 legged Crow theory to me seems best and if its some technique that will stop ameterasu then it makes more sense, maybe naruto wont have to do anything maybe it'll just activate on reaction like with Sasuke burning Madara/Tobi, because if thats how itachi planted it thats how it will work. All in all both theorys are great but i like the crow better.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    naruto showed us that he knows how to manage a sword, when he defended sakura with sai's sword...
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    isn't there a opening OR a ending..that we saw naruto with a sword ? x)

    i found it: Naruto Shippuden Ending 6 Broken Youth
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by Cash View Post
    Sorry... but this person is way off...


    Yes, his thought process is right now target... but that "little crow" ... is Sasuke...

    NOT some gift Itachi gave to Naruto...

    The theory is historically accurate, but the person is directing the theory in the wrong direction...

    Use all that "theory" knowledge and point it at Sasuke directly,.... and it makes 1000% more sense....
    It's an interesting read and much more plausible theory than someone trying to feed us that Itachi's gift was actually a key toad, basing the argument on a mixed up manga sequence.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by pedroc View Post
    Itachi's gift to Naruto is Akatsuki nail polish
    +Rep for you.

    :D

    His Akatsuki coat was really nice too but, I guess Sasuke got that... Who's their tailor? He creats those coats really fast.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    it's ectually could make sense if it only was the same sword but the swords looks very different. : / put a clue to the end of the series in the first volumes does sound like something that kishimoto san would do, but it just don't looks like it gonna happen.

    but i'll give point just for the genius idea!
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Ive been wondering about this forever. Almost every elite Shinobi has a weapon of choice and we still have yet to see Naruto's weapon.

    Sounds like a pretty interesting idea and the proof matches so I wouldnt be so surprised. Would be pretty cool
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    well we can always hope naruto gets a sword its all up to kishi though
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Naruto with a sword?sounds interesting...i hope he get a sword from one of bleach characters:D
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    if it is a sword, is this the one itachi used when he fought itachi and stabbed him several times in a second in tsokuyumi techinique when he and kisame went to konoha?
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    i would love to see a katana in naruto's hand...
    sword looks very awesome and cool..
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by Yakashi Yondaime View Post
    We`ll just have to wait and see ^_^
    ok look i went to japan for the weekend me and my kin im like happy till death beacuse i know wat power itachi gave to naruto it is sarigan no doudt about it if u dont belive me go to japan your self
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by aizen8686 View Post
    Naruto with a sword?sounds interesting...i hope he get a sword from one of bleach characters:D
    yea that would be good dont u hope naruto get the power to controll the full nine tailed fox i mine like if he get that power it would be so easy for him to not get calt in a genjustu and his power level would be alsmost close to infite and he can just go to the store to get a rare sword or something in put his name on it and get a cool outfit that say kyuubi sage naruto an all this will eqiup to alsome naruto because he will have sage mode controlling the full nine tailed fox and plus his own power if all this happen then i well go in the corner somewhere and take a shit tell me what all yall think if this happen to
     
         
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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

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    Hello evryone........I liked the theory..Thanx Chakra-san to post dat theory...But when i was looking up one onemanga forums I came across this theory which seems better to me. Here is the link:-

    [Theory] Itachi's gift - Samjoko, three legged bird - OneManga.com Forums

    Please reply.............
    i just read this theory and it sounds more plausible to ^^^^
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    It makes a lot of sense when you read it thoroughly.

    Take a look at this thread ;
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...got-japan.html
    It seems that Itachi is somehow brought back alive by the Eye of the Moon Plan.

    When Itachi will come back, he will maybe abandon Madara and ally with Naruto instead of Kisame/Konan as it is mentioned here ;
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...kishimoto.html

    When this is written ;
    3. One of the Akatsuki's member becomes friend/ally with Naruto

    -> not yet confirmed, I'm expecting it to be Konan or Kisame

    --> right now I guess it could be Konan (to save Pain) or Sasuke if we take him as an Akatsuki.


    The Akatsuki member who will ally with Naruto could be Itachi.
    And maybe then he will reveal his gift.
    Maybe he needs Naruto's help to defeat Madara.
    There could be some sort of a connection with that sword.
    (Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru)
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    now i think about it, does every1 notice how at the end of some episodes a crow would always fly across the screeen chanting"idiot" or something along them lines?
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by kazeshini View Post
    now i think about it, does every1 notice how at the end of some episodes a crow would always fly across the screeen chanting"idiot" or something along them lines?
    yea
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Both theories are really awsome...thnks for sharing it :D
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by chakra View Post
    i found this thread on another forum and wanted to share it with you all because i found it very well researched and convincing. I'm not taking credit for this, it is not my research, just sharing you can view the original thread here.

    In naruto chapter 403 tears, it is revealed that itachi gave naruto a gift, a special power to help him in the future (with a crow in his mouth). I believe i have discovered the inspiration for that power.

    some history:
    "the kogarasu maru or "little crow", is a unique japanese tachi sword rumored to have been created by legendary japanese smith amakuni during 8th century ce."

    "the kogarasu maru is sometimes referred to as a kogarasu zukuri as the blade of the kogarasu maru was forged in the kissaki moro ha zukuri design. The kogarasu maru is unique as a bridge between the old double-edged japanese ken (based on the traditional chinese straight sword) and the traditional japanese tachi and eventual katana.

    The kogarasu maru "little crow" is the most famous of the known kogarasu zukuri blades and currently in the japanese imperial collection. The tang of the kogarasu maru is not signed but the blade is believed to have been made during the either the early heian period or late nara period, by the famous japanese swordsmith amakuni, who is said to have created the first curved japanese sword and is believed to have lived during this period.

    "there is an ancient legend that attribute this revolution in sword making to amakuni, traditionally belived to be the maker of kogarasumaru or little crow, the first curved nipponto, now in the imperial household collection. According to this legend amakuni was the emperors swordsmith. One day he saw his lords army returning from a battle and the emperor ignored him instead to give the usual cheers for the good work made with the blades. Then he noticed that many soldiers had broken swords. They where chokuto or straight swords. He was so disappointed of this that he avoid to eat food and drink water for a week, studying a better way to make swords. According to the legend inari (fox spirit), the kami of swordsmakers, appeared in a dream to amakuni, teaching him how to wrap a soft steel core in an harder one, and how a curved edge is more suitable to cuts and more resistant to shocks than the previous straight one. The day after amakuni made kogarasu maru, the ancestor of all nihonto."

    "ama-kuni of yamato, who lived about a. D. 700, was a celebrated maker. one of his blades is said to have been carried off by a crow during the reign of kuwammu-tenno, a. D. 782, and has since been known by the name of the kogarasu maru * (little crow). In a. D. 940 taira sadamori became the possessor of this sword, which was drawn by him in the wars with masakado, who was until lately deified at kanda, yeddo. "

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    these are the covers for naruto chapter 3 and chapter 185 (they're the same covers). We see a "little crow" just over naruto's shoulder. Also, this is the only known chapter cover(at least to my knowledge) that has ever been repeated. (notice the significance of having the image of a little crow when kishi introduces sasuke into the manga and when sasuke leaves konoha to go to orochimaru)

    ch. 3 & 185 cover pages:


    then there's the cover for naruto chapter 11, on this chapter cover we see a crow carrying a sword in it's beak and it appears to be presenting it to naruto:
    Ch. 11 cover:


    all the kunais almost suggest hiraishin (flying thunder god technique)


    notice in the backgrounds of each cover is the full moon, a clear symbol of itachi. Naruto chapter 142 cover, this is a cover of itachi with the full moon in the bottom lefthand corner. Naruto chapter 145 page 10 and page 11.

    Also, one of the sources itachi get's his name from is the kamaitachi. The source of the name kamaitachi is kamaetachi, which means "attacking tachi". It was later changed to the name kamaitachi as a naming pun for "sickle weasel", by toriyama sekien. It's also of note that the kamaitachi itself is a wind demon. The kamaitachi also makes an appearance in the naruto series as one of temari's summoning techniques.

    Temari's sickle weasel summoning:


    well, there you have it. This is what i believe itachi gave naruto. Itachi gave naruto a legendary sword named the kogarasu maru. The sword is most likely a chakra blade, which would allow naruto to use his wind elemental affinity along with it to cut opponents at a distance - wraithx959
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    my own additions to this theory:
    i was searching the internet for cover page pictures and here's what i found

    notice anything?:


    i wonder... If it really is a sword... How and when will it come to naruto?
    .....good job....but.....i think thats how itachi came to be. In the text it says "little crow" meens "tachi sword"...now look that word tachi and put and "i" in front of the "t"...and thus the name itachi comes about...and itachi loves his crows so...hey this was a great find...i was just saying...and yes...naruto should get a sword if sasuke has one...lol
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by mohsin View Post
    both theories are really awsome...thnks for sharing it :d
    i greatly agree with moshin
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by COLONELJJ81 View Post
    .....good job....but.....i think thats how itachi came to be. In the text it says "little crow" meens "tachi sword"...now look that word tachi and put and "i" in front of the "t"...and thus the name itachi comes about...and itachi loves his crows so...hey this was a great find...i was just saying...and yes...naruto should get a sword if sasuke has one...lol
    look this is to end every thing and u can not say im wrong cause i heard it from my kin which is from japan the power that itachi give to naruto is not to controll the kyuubi or to get a sword the power that itachi gave to naruto is to have the sradiangan and the power to use black flames in to get easyly out of any genjustu and i saw it with my own eyes and guys this is from japan and theres some top things i have to tell u guys me in my japan kin was chating in he told me that there is going to be a new seris of naruto and in that seres naruto will have power to controll the kyuubi and and two akasti members are going to give him power he dindt tell me which two but yeah thata about it oh and i just got to say this saskue going to always be equal with naruto and there about three more things i have to tell u guys madara is not tobi or donzu he just madara him self and naruto and saskue going to fight cause my kin showed me when they both was going to fight this is what happen nobody dies they both going get close to the egde of death in stop fighting each other in become friends oh in saskue going to be come good again beacuse my kin showed me and dont let that manga 459 or 458 fool u naruto and sakura is not going to go with each other according to japan manga naruto is going to go out with hinata ok this is it if anyone want to any questions well just ask me and make sure u guys try to send this massage to other web sites am sure there alot a people want to know about this if u people dont belive me well that u cause for my kin form japn show me in we had a long coverstion will ok peace fans
     
         

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    Re: Itachi's Gift: Kogarasu Maru

    Quote Originally Posted by COLONELJJ81 View Post
    .....good job....but.....i think thats how itachi came to be. In the text it says "little crow" meens "tachi sword"...now look that word tachi and put and "i" in front of the "t"...and thus the name itachi comes about...and itachi loves his crows so...hey this was a great find...i was just saying...and yes...naruto should get a sword if sasuke has one...lol
    look this is to end every thing and u can not say im wrong cause i heard it from my kin which is from japan the power that itachi give to naruto is not to controll the kyuubi or to get a sword the power that itachi gave to naruto is to have the sradiangan and the power to use black flames in to get easyly out of any genjustu and i saw it with my own eyes and guys this is from japan and theres some top things i have to tell u guys me in my japan kin was chating in he told me that there is going to be a new seris of naruto and in that seres naruto will have power to controll the kyuubi and and two akasti members are going to give him power he dindt tell me which two but yeah thata about it oh and i just got to say this saskue going to always be equal with naruto and there about three more things i have to tell u guys madara is not tobi or donzu he just madara him self and naruto and saskue going to fight cause my kin showed me when they both was going to fight this is what happen nobody dies they both going get close to the egde of death in stop fighting each other in become friends oh in saskue going to be come good again beacuse my kin showed me and dont let that manga 459 or 458 fool u naruto and sakura is not going to go with each other according to japan manga naruto is going to go out with hinata ok this is it if anyone want to any questions well just ask me and make sure u guys try to send this massage to other web sites am sure there alot a people want to know about this if u people dont belive me well that u cause for my kin form japn show me in we had a long coverstion will ok peace fans
     
         

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