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    anyways like i was saying more points to madara lying then to him not lying kthxbaiiii

    I predict more bs from madara and sasuke starting to believe him next chapter should cover shodaim vs madara i think.
     
         

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    yay i wanted to see the fight but all you people dbout madara
     
         

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    Madara could win Sasuke over by purely telling the truth also, after this he could simply build up hate for Konoha for killing his clan and ultimately using Itachi as their tool. It sounds that this is most likely, because it seems Itachi did not want Sasuke to know the truth. Hence why he planted Amaterasu in his eye, so that Madara would not approach him and tell him the truth about Itachi.

    It would not be suprising if Konoha did order the assassination, think of how dangerous the Uchiha clan can be. Their History, their Secrecy and the dark clan Secrets only they know, its highly possible Itachi confessed things to the leaders of Konoha.

    There's alot you dont know about the Uchiha, all we know is they possess the Sharinghan, to also gain more power they kill those closest to them and they are one of the strongest clans in the Shinobi world. In other words, they're highly dangerous...

    Konoha would only execute the Uchiha clan if there was something greater at risk. It would not be evil, but consider it for the "Greater good"...

    Obviously Madara would be angry, he would tell Sasuke of the history between them and Konoha. It would obviously be a dark history because we know how much Madara hates Konoha, he could use telling the full truth to Sasuke to turn him against Konoha. Because Madara he knows how powerful Sasuke is... up untill now Itachi, used this opportunity to destroy the evil in his clan and kept it secret because thats the way he wanted it. He probably would rather let Sasuke think he's evil, than Sasuke to side with Madara hating Konoha....

    Could possibly lead Sasuke turning on Naruto and helping Akatsuki to take the Kyuubi...... "Do not kill Naruto, you will regret it" could be an insight into the future. Quite a quote from a while back..

    So.... Itachi imo hid this all from Sasuke, even remember him saying to him that "Madara helped him kill the clan", this is most likely a lie, to keep Sasuke away from Madara and to possibly hate him... Which in turn, stops Madara revealing the truth about Itachi.

    "Protecting him from the truth" - Which may or may not turn him against Konoha. Why else would Itachi want to fill Madara's mouth full of Amaterasu lol....to shut him up, to keep this sacrifice away from Sasuke.

    I suggest people read and compare Manga chapters and reading the naruto wikia. Because saying Madara is lying would be pointless, but we know he isnt at all. Because so far, what he's told is accurate to what we already know, he's filling in the pieces behind the Uchiha clan that none of us has known.

    He would gain NOTHING from lying to Sasuke, so thats why its unlikely in my opinion.
     
         

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    what the hell. next week is golden week???? so theres no shonen jump/naruto manga next week. and theres also no shippuden next week. so in other words this week will blow ass!!!!!!!!
     
         

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    oh men what a drag
     
         

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    im a consumer right, but i dont belive that madara lies, i think its the truth, but only one side of the coin, and the other side he will didn't tell sasuke cause there is the reason for killing the clan. "The best lie, is a part of the truth, they do you need to change a oppinion", in this case the oppinion of sasuke. I would only say that its possible the 3th gave the mission to itachi to safe konoha, cause the uchiha clan works with danzou together or want to try to get the control over konoha, and form konoha like madaras konoha.
     
         

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    thinmints meant tsuande "DIDNT" gain not did not... and it is sakura is proof that it is her own developed jutsu since she was able to teach her that power punching.

    and to answer the question why the bloodline did not get to her, it may have been that the mokuton was not the bloodline of the clan but just the 1st hokages ability, they have been saying he was the only one that could use it for quite some time now, so maybe the clan had some other ability if they had a bloodline.

    Also not all uchihas had the shirangan, most of them were able to develop it but thats not the point, tsu is the grand daughter of the 1st so after 2 generations maybe the blood line weaken, the 1st coulda married someone not from the clan, and then their child married another not from the clan therefore weakening their clan blood. And there are also degrees of strength of the bloodline ability, for example neji fully gained the hyuugas powers and could see almost 360 degrees around him.
     
         

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    I am wondering who is naruto going to fight first it might be pein or sasuke.
     
         

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    after training with toad it my be sasuke again
     
         

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    Do you think that Tobi/Madara can't deactivate his sharingan?
     
         

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    i guess yes since is the one who create
     
         

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    He didnt create it
     
         

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    my mind is baffled by pein takes orders from madara. it's obvious to everyone in akatsuki that pein is the strongest since he has rinnegan which is by far more powerful than anyone in the organization. why isn't pein just slappin them around?
     
         

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    Cuz madara is even stronger.
     
         

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    when we learn Pein's weakness then we can tell why he takes orders from Madara.
     
         

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    yep madara is stronger then pein and i dont think is the true learder of aka
     
         

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    Madara could also be stronger than him cuz of the EMS

    Madara could also be stronger than him cuz of the EMS
    Madara is the true leader how could u say that!?
     
         
    Last edited by Madara Uchiha; 04-27-2008 at 03:03 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    but they say rennegan is stronger then sharingan
     
         

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    yeah im sayin rinnegan would pwn MS, jiraiya said himself "rinnegan if BY FAR the most powerful of the 3 eye doujutsu's" so how is madara stronger than pein?

    and EMS is just the same as MS but is will never make you go blind, but it's not stronger than MS itself
     
         
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    yES IT IS IT ALSO SAID THAT IT UNLOCKED A COMPLETELY NEW POWER IN THE MANGA AND A NEW MANGEKYO TECHNIQUE!
     
         

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    rinnegan gave birth to ninjutsu and has the power to destroy it, EMS might have a new jutsu but it doesn't make it stronger than rinnegan....
     
         

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    It didnt give birth to ninjutsu the sage of the six paths did and the EMS also became far stronger than a normal MS it says that in the manga addition to the new technique!
     
         

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    well the man who invented ninjutsu was the man with the RINNEGAN. seems like he couldn't invent ninjutsu without it. rinnegan pwns sharingay
     
         

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    sharingan is not gay and just because he made ninjustsu doesn't mean some1 couldn't have made some thing more powerful

    just look a resengan
     
         

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    it matters not who ploted it don'y you see either way in sasuke's eyes konoha will be at fault which is what madara wants sasuke to believe thus sasuke will set his eyes on destroying konoha because konoha won't let him kill 3 people for revenge especially when those 3 had nothing to do with it.

    as for itachi to someone who asked itachi was the anbu squad captain meaning part of the hokage's anbu.

    Madara could win Sasuke over by purely telling the truth also, after this he could simply build up hate for Konoha for killing his clan and ultimately using Itachi as their tool. It sounds that this is most likely, because it seems Itachi did not want Sasuke to know the truth. Hence why he planted Amaterasu in his eye, so that Madara would not approach him and tell him the truth about Itachi.

    It would not be suprising if Konoha did order the assassination, think of how dangerous the Uchiha clan can be. Their History, their Secrecy and the dark clan Secrets only they know, its highly possible Itachi confessed things to the leaders of Konoha.

    There's alot you dont know about the Uchiha, all we know is they possess the Sharinghan, to also gain more power they kill those closest to them and they are one of the strongest clans in the Shinobi world. In other words, they're highly dangerous...

    Konoha would only execute the Uchiha clan if there was something greater at risk. It would not be evil, but consider it for the "Greater good"...

    Obviously Madara would be angry, he would tell Sasuke of the history between them and Konoha. It would obviously be a dark history because we know how much Madara hates Konoha, he could use telling the full truth to Sasuke to turn him against Konoha. Because Madara he knows how powerful Sasuke is... up untill now Itachi, used this opportunity to destroy the evil in his clan and kept it secret because thats the way he wanted it. He probably would rather let Sasuke think he's evil, than Sasuke to side with Madara hating Konoha....

    Could possibly lead Sasuke turning on Naruto and helping Akatsuki to take the Kyuubi...... "Do not kill Naruto, you will regret it" could be an insight into the future. Quite a quote from a while back..

    So.... Itachi imo hid this all from Sasuke, even remember him saying to him that "Madara helped him kill the clan", this is most likely a lie, to keep Sasuke away from Madara and to possibly hate him... Which in turn, stops Madara revealing the truth about Itachi.

    "Protecting him from the truth" - Which may or may not turn him against Konoha. Why else would Itachi want to fill Madara's mouth full of Amaterasu lol....to shut him up, to keep this sacrifice away from Sasuke.

    I suggest people read and compare Manga chapters and reading the naruto wikia. Because saying Madara is lying would be pointless, but we know he isnt at all. Because so far, what he's told is accurate to what we already know, he's filling in the pieces behind the Uchiha clan that none of us has known.

    He would gain NOTHING from lying to Sasuke, so thats why its unlikely in my opinion.
     
         
    Last edited by Shodaime; 04-28-2008 at 12:46 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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