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    Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

    He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    no...senju in general are still stronger IMO....
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Kishimoto has done a excellent job in the series.. BUT the thing where he has ****ed up/screwed up is.. Genjutsu. Let me explain for example, we tsukuyomi a genjutsu that can only be broken by another Uchiha or a Jinchuriki. Basically what that means is everyone else besides the Uchiha or the Jinchuriki... is screwed. So with taking that into consideration when Kishimoto alludes to the Senju as the strongest clan.. its a fail why? Because Uchiha has tsukuyomi. Now this has allowed me to change my mind on the whole Naruto series and I now declare the Uchiha as the Strongest Clan to exist in this series.

    He has made moves that have 10-0% counters.
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas and Sharingan users who are Uchihas.

    And then to go on to say the Uchiha > Senju based on one Jutsu which can be avoided by simply looking down is extremely shallow.

    You are the great fail here, not Kishimoto.

    And then people ask me why I don't post in the Naruto Discussion that much. Because it's full of people who make shitty threads such as these. >_>
     
         
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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    A Fail: "Every justu has a weakness." What about Rinne Tensei?
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable.

    You are the great fail, not Kishimoto.
    What he said ^.

    Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    OP=fail

    only itachi has tsukoyomi

    OP=die
    OP=please suicide your big failure mirrors ur parents
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Not every Uchiha had Tsukiyomi. Of the three that had it, one never uses it though he's a demi-god, one isn't very good at it and the other is dead./thread.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Senju have the body, Uchiha have the eyes..they should be equal but there always has to be a winner so..
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    -Logic- just shot you down buddy..
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Not all Uchihas are OP like Itachi and Sasuke at genjutsu
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    You failed, big time.

    Only two, maybe 3 Uchihas out of the ENTIRE clan have Tsukuyomi; Itachi/Sasuke/Madara.

    And out of ONE of those THREE, only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable.

    You are the great fail, not Kishimoto.
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Kabuto countered it. Tsunade healed Kakashi and Sasuke. [Naruto Chapter 172, Page 15]
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    we have only seen itachi used it not every uchiha, and not sure but i think you need the mangekyou sharingan to do it
    Sooooo kishi didn't fail...you did bro..sorry
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
    That old puppet woman fought a Uchiha before and knows how to snap out of it and counter it, so yeah.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kevenc View Post
    What he said ^.

    Though, We don't know if Sasuke has it
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyPHANTOM View Post
    OP=fail

    only itachi has tsukoyomi

    OP=die
    OP=please suicide your big failure mirrors ur parents
    Sasuke and Madara have Tsukiyomi as well
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    The Senju and the Uchiha rival equally each other. Kishi has made a fantastic story arc of the war before all wars. Many clans have there own difference and silimarities. To what I think and based on my knowledge. There fighting took a toll and took both there clans to an almost breaking point since both clans were tired of the war. The strongest Senju that beat the Uchiha head master is Hashirama. That's it.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SCARFEEST View Post
    Senju have the body, Uchiha have the eyes..they should be equal but there always has to be a winner so..
    Please go find someone who is not a Jin or a Uchiha ..... that can break Tsukuyomi

    Need a counter not a saying....

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    -Logic- just shot you down buddy..
    You do know what a "shut down " is right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hipster Madara View Post
    Not all Uchihas are OP like Itachi and Sasuke at genjutsu

    Please go find someone who is not a Jin or a Uchiha ..... that can break Tsukuyomi
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Sasuke has the tsukuyomi, you can't have Susano'o without Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi guys...
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Yes cause every Uchiha can just spam tsukuyomi we have seen that right? Or what are you basing this statement on? Maybe we are reading different mangas.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
    Shisui has KA in both eyes. We don't know about Izuna.

    Someone who can break out of Tsukuyomi? Anyone, provided it's not Itachi's Tsukuyomi. 90% of members here on NB still don't understand that ONLY Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas with the Sharingan. Sasuke's can be broken, Madara's too, unless said otherwise.

    I fail? Think again.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Do you people even read the thread.. Instead of providing a counter you post stuff that has already been in the manga. The fact of the matter is Itachi's or any uchiha's Tsukuyomi cannot be Countered. The point is on Tsukuyomi.. and Izanagi and Izanami. Like God damn it.

    And not every Senju is strong as Hashirama or Tsunade or Tobirama.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Logic- View Post
    Shisui has KA in both eyes. We don't know about Izuna.

    Someone who can break out of Tsukuyomi? Anyone, provided it's not Itachi's Tsukuyomi. 90% of members here on NB still don't understand that ONLY Itachi's Tsukuyomi is unbreakable, except for Uchihas with the Sharingan. Sasuke's can be broken, Madara's too, unless said otherwise.

    I fail? Think again.
    ~sigh~... Again.. Do you know anyone who can break Tsukuyomi and that is not a Uchiha or a Jin... if so and it has been shown please tell me. Otherwise no. Shiusui had MS i believe and probably has Tsukuyomi.
     
         
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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Sasuke and Madara have Tsukiyomi as well
    did madara and sasuke use it?
    dont say they have susanoo then they have tsukoyomi just show me the manga page they use IT
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyPHANTOM View Post
    OP=fail

    only itachi has tsukoyomi

    OP=die
    OP=please suicide your big failure mirrors ur parents
    You're the failure. Madara and Sasuke also have it.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    Please go find someone who is not a Jin or a Uchiha ..... that can break Tsukuyomi

    Need a counter not a saying....



    You do know what a "shut down " is right?




    Please go find someone who is not a Jin or a Uchiha ..... that can break Tsukuyomi
    There are not many who can break Tsukiyomi. However, this does not matter since there are no known people who can use Tsukiyomi like Itachi can.
     
         

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    Re: Kishimoto the Great fails.....

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    We still don't know the number of people who have MS . And if you take the known MS users it is 5..

    And name someone who can break out of tsukuyomi? that is not a Jin or Uchiha. Please o please name someone.
    Only people who have a proper chance against Itachi are Jins or Another Uchiha. So you my friend fail in saying that I fail
    Madara and Izuna
    Obito and Shisui
    Itachi and Sasuke.
    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6!
     
         

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