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    Tobi/Madara's Weakness

    Now, as up untill now we've seen Tobi rasengan'd, slashed, amaterasu'd, exploded, and bugg'd. He hasn't been hurt by ANY of it. Now, I'm not sure if Kakashi (in the manga) said this, but Tobi's probably using a dimensional-sharingan thing. He's using the same thing as Kakashi's MS, only it's obviously much more advanced and etc. Tobi/Madara can't be killed by normal means, not even through amaterasu (or, presumtively, susano).

    So what if Madara faced a blast from Kakashi's MS, sending him into another dimension. I'm nearly 100% sure that would at least hurt him.

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    nO CUZ HE'D TELEPORT OUT OF THE DIMENSION. hE HAS SPACE-TIME JUTSU MORE ADVANCED THAN THE 4THS BECUZ HE CAN DO IT AT OWN FREE WILL WITHOUT HANDSIGNS/TAGS.
     
         

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    Well, I mean what if he got his arm stuck in another dimension? Can his ARM do jutsus by itself?
     
         

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    i'd think since the 1st beat him, he could be beat by some advanced wood ninjustu
     
         

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    As I've just learned, it's not a proven fact that Madara lost to the 1st.... :D
     
         

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    It hasnt been confirmed that the first beat him. you dont even know what happened in that fight. more than likely madara let him win cuz madara's to good. I mean the first got killed by kakuza so how could i be weaker than him if im stronger thatn kakuza.

    And if u say that kakuza didnt beat the 1st go to one of the mangas when kakuza fight konoha ninja like when he unleashes the five herarts thing. He says he killed the 1st.
     
         

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    m... MADARA would win. kakashi would be hit by amaterasu b4 he could react
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishamonSama View Post
    As I've just learned, it's not a proven fact that Madara lost to the 1st.... :D
    they fought over control of konoha, and since the first became kage of konoha we can assume he won. infact itachi, kakashi and jiraiya mention the 1st beating maadara
     
         

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    No one knows what really happened

    That is what is told but no one knows how.

    There is no possible way the first beat madara.
    You will all see next weak or the weak after that.
     
         

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    This isnt about if Madara would win or not, it's about whether or not he could survive, say, his arm being shot into another dimension.

    And, Sage, I'm assuming we should NOT get Madara over there started about this Because he DOES have a valid arguement, all of the Konoha ninjas could be under some ploy that the 1st beat madara as far as we know

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha View Post
    when kakuza fight konoha ninja like when he unleashes the five herarts thing. He says he killed the 1st.
    Though I'm sure you're right, it's a little hard to believe that a group of konoha ninja (plus naruto) beat the guy who killed the 1st (who was not necessarily in his prime)
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha View Post
    No one knows what really happened

    That is what is told but no one knows how.

    There is no possible way the first beat madara.
    You will all see next weak or the weak after that.
    maadara lost , i dont know why people dont wanna accept it. If he won then why isnt he the 1st hokage cuz they were fighting over control of konoha.
     
         

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    We don't know they were fighting over control of Konoha. It's all qutie a bit sketchy, and we probably won't know the truth until next chapter, or the one after that, when Madara continues on about the founding of the leaf (he'll get to this fight eventually)
     
         

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    what else was there to fight about except domination. im pretty sure it wasnt just a friendly duel . I guess well have to wait then but i'm convinced maadara will twist the truth to get sasuke on his side for his own plans and thats why itachi wanted sasuke far away from maadara as possible.
     
         

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    all i know nidaime was fithing with madara first and then shodaime come he beat him
     
         

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    Why would kishi make madara lie to sasuke, thats just gonna confuse evry1 and he doesnt need to lie to him cuz he knows sasuke gonna blieve him even if sasuke doesnt want to believe.
     
         

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    i dont know madara my be right
     
         

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    Oooookay, my brain's starting to hurt, buut back to topic:
    What would happen to Madara if, say, one of his limbs was sent to another dimension (like deidara)
     
         

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    I dont think that would happen but if it did it would obviously hurt him like anyone else.
     
         

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    i dont think madara is lying about the story of konoha
     
         

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    Yeah thats what i said b4.
     
         

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    but abot itachi story i dont know
     
         

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    Well, Madara definitely had some sort of hold over Itachi, otherwise itachi would've come right out with it all in his battle with sasuke, yes?
     
         

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    yeah .................
     
         

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    By the way, because Itachi gave Sasuke all of his powers, do you think that means Sasuke has the EMS as well? And when Sasuke used amaterasu, his eye bled. So does that mean it affects him like it affected Itachi?
     
         

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    One thing for sure- ONLY MADARA HAS EMS. Sasuke doesnt have mangekyou
     
         

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